Alt Headline: Judges would rather hand our country to fascists than to hold a fascist accountable
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I don’t think so. If they hold him in contempt then it becomes more likely his push for a mistrial succeeds. His goal is to push the trial time past election day, so then he can continue the argument that they can’t do anything to the president and he can pardon himself federally (assuming he wins or takes over after losing).
I’d love to see him be held accountable like an average person is, but I totally agree with their position of playing it safe. You don’t fuck around for fun when a want-to-be fascist dictator is in play. Either you execute him quickly or you make sure to do everything properly and give them no room to argue you cheated, because they’ll try no matter what.
It’s really that an appeal for mistrial goes to some other judge that might have maga up the ass. I don’t agree that this is the safe play, there’s a strong history of contempt being used in court as a deterrent and any skilled prosecutor would get intimately familiar with all the cases where public statements were made to intimidate witnesses and such.
It’s odd to say that Engoron is afraid to rule against Trump when he already ruled he’s guilty of fraud. I’d also love to see him fined a billion dollars or to spend time in jail for contempt of court but Trump and his team are baiting him to take more extreme action to argue bias on appeal. Keeping his orders beyond reasonable is probably the right move to protect his verdict moving forward. Same goes for Chutkin. She’s probably more reluctant to help Trump open a door to appeal than afraid to have him spend a night in jail or whatever.
Judge baiting should itself be contempt.
This is exactly it. People expecting Thor’s hammer to drop are mistaken.
What they don’t understand is it already dropped. He was found liable and this is just sentencing.
Engoron is playing this smart AF.
You’re not wrong there, but people are probably more worried about the Federal cases where this hasn’t happened yet.
Same reason, judge has let all those idiot expert witnesses and let them spout off to a degree. Trying to leave no room for appeal.
Congressional republicans really hung the entire country out to dry when they chose to cross that line with him. That’s what it all comes back to. These questions should never be riding on individual judges; it’s why the legislative branch was defined as its own thing and not just another arm of the president. But they signaled to everyone that his actions were just fine within the framework of the gov.
I mean the whole point of this country was to NOT have power consolidated in one office, and these clowns are just going full-steam ahead on sending us back there again, and dumping all of their resources into convincing the public it’s a good thing. Some days I just don’t know what kind of backward mirror world we fell into.
he’s basically a sovereign citizen
At what point does this removed just not get killed
I think they’re afraid of appeals. Whatever they do, they want to make it stick
And they’ve succeeded in making appeals difficult. The judge made a factual ruling that Trump engaged in insurrection, so any appeals also must accept that as a fact.
It may not have been the outcome we hoped for, but it’s a strong step in the right direction.
I’ve never heard of that site before, but that was a well-written piece and a good read. Thanks for sharing it.
We USians gave that shithead Trump access to the largest spying network in the world and are surprised that Trump might be extorting and blackmailing judges.
Well it wasn’t like we did it ourselves, they called it “pied piper” for a reason
