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      And if it weren’t for those ‘tankies’, you’d still have your genocidal baby murdering loser on the ticket.

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          Considering anyone who criticized Biden was labeled as a “tankie,” I’d say the tankies at the NYT and CNN probably played a role in it, yes.

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    I think this is as strong as could reasonably be expected from Harris. It’s also brilliant politically. People who wouldn’t have voted for Biden because of Palestine may be willing to go with Harris.

    In addition to age, this makes two of Biden’s biggest drawbacks crushed in one week. I like it.

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      Dems actually executed a plan shockingly well. Get the Republican anti-Biden propaganda machine to load up on specific issues, then swap Biden with someone that doesn’t have those issues. Now that the populace has been agitated on those issues, point out that Trump is the candidate who is old and fucks with Palestine. Classic bait and switch. Trump fell for the trap.

      Kamala isn’t perfect, but she seems to be running on prosecuting and cleaning up the Trump crime spree. I can get behind that. A relief to see the dems pull something like this off. Acting like they were completely blowing it was just so believable. Biden’s debate performance really sold it.

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    Well its about fucking time. Reuters/ Ipsos results will be in next week.

    Lets see if MI/ WI get back on the table and if MN is still a toss up. Its good strong rhetoric but the US has been on the wrong side of this issue for 9 months. One speech doesn’t change that and there is damage to be fixed, but its always a first step. We froze Russian assets to fund the rebuilding of Ukraine. Should we freeze Israelli assets to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza? Lets hear some policy proposals.

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      Man if we could close the gap in Georgia or North Carolina that would be great. We’d have a much higher chance then.

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        I’m way, way, way less worried about those states than I am MI, and WI.

        MI and WI should lnt even be competitive for Trump. The speech was a good start, we’re gonna need actual action to bring Muslim voters back into the fold.

        The black community has rallied around Harris in a way not seen since 2008. I’ve got too much day job work rn, but my first pass on some data says “fuck it, shoot for Florida too”. Obama won Florida twice and Trump really only won it in the margins.

        But without WI and MI, it’s all for naught.

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          There’s not much policy action she could take. Other than the words, she’s probably going to meet with community leaders, but there’s really not much more she can do on that front.

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            She’s still part of an administration that can do policy. The job of president is a purely rhetorical position. Her job is and will be to move people to policy positions.

            If she can move Joe Biden to a better policy on Gaze/Israel, she wins this election.

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              That’s not how that works. Biden has very real power, not just rhetorical. For example he can deploy the military wherever he wants for 60 days. He can direct an agency to only do half of it’s job. (Trump famously removed all the furniture from the office meant to help people find immigration detainees) If you’re not American then think of him as a prime minister/CEO. The Vice President gets a portfolio from the president. Without that their only job is to break ties in the Senate and stay alive.

              Some administrations have had a division of labor for whipping votes, but that is primarily the job of the party whip and leader for each chamber.

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                Agree to disagree on the power she has, and I know very, very well how all this works.

                I think you are failing to appreciate the role of rhetoric in leadership and politics and how things actually work. The job is ENTIRELY rhetorical and the job of the President is to move public opinions in specific ways toward policy positions they want them to take.

                Everything after the rheotoric is an afterthought.