• Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    US Corporations making more money from the wars. This is how the system is set up. it is working exactly as they planned.

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    1 year ago

    Sanctions haven’t worked before, why would it work now?

    America’s willingness to toss sanctions around willy-nilly is single-handedly destroying globalism and creating a multipolar world.

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        1 year ago

        The globalization of the economy has been the single greatest contributor to world peace since the second world war.

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          People love to make this claim but it’s kind of impossible to prove. I could just as easily say that the Second World War itself resulted in a distaste for war, or that innovations in computers and electronics contributed to world peace. There’s just correlations, but it’s just kind of “vibes” - “oh they wouldn’t go to war because they rely on eachothers trade!” as if historically nations didn’t also have trade. Like, Venice was notoriously the trade hub of Europe in the Middle Ages and it still got invaded a whole bunch.

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            Venice didn’t really have domestic technologies that everyone else relied on and that couldn’t be easily replaced because it costs the GDP of a medium-sized country to even develop.

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              So what you’re talking about isn’t really globalism, but technological supremacy? Globalism is just about supply chains being spread across the globe. When I pointed out that nations connected with large supply chains still got invaded you moved the goalposts to be about technology.

              The fact is that I don’t think there really is any domestic technology that everyone relies on which only has one source - high tech industries such as semiconductor electronics, aerospace engineering, biomedical engineering, etc. are researched, designed and manufactured all over the world. Yes, there are certain countries which have a lot more research in one area than others, or which manufacture a lot more than others, but it’s not as if China, Russia, the USA, Israel, Europe, etc. would be incapable of research, design and manufacturing if those other powers just suddenly ceased to exist.

              The Roman Empire had technology that was decades ahead of their contemporaries and that didn’t seem to help them keep the peace - but something else did - an emperor who valued peace and saw it as the goal of the Roman Empire. After the death of Marcus Aurelius, Pax Romana went into decline. It wasn’t technology, or trade, or even military strength which kept the peace - it was a desire for peace, and the people who worked to achieve it.

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            The US has shown that they’re willing to weaponize their position in the West to block development of technology by key rivals like Russia, China, and India. The dependence that these powers had on Western technology is a key motivator against war… But today? If the US can unilaterally restrict access anyway, what’s the motivation?

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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              Wars are very costly, and wars between nuclear superpowers would be world ending. US and USSR had no trade to speak of and didn’t go to war for these reasons.