It’s not whataboutism. It’s getting the priorities straight and not getting distracted by false problems.

The article posted facts and supported findings. These are not “false problems” and are posted for information and discussion, not as a distraction.

What is raised in the article is not specific to renewables. It’s pretty much generalized as soon as you have private interests.

The article is specifically about issues pertaining to the industry producing and selling renewables in California, USA. I have no private issues other than the sharing of information and constructive discussions about it. A share is not necessarily an endorsement and will not be received equally by all viewers though we should be able to engage in discussions without making assumptions about other users or unnecessarily pointing fingers.

So isolating renewables is improper and demagogic.

The focus of this community is green energy and there will be posts that focus on renewables. This post is on topic and posts from others are are always welcome, provided no false information is shared and discussions don’t get combative.

Agreed that oil and gas are far worse in these aspects.

Let’s not succumb to whataboutism, however. These are still important issues to consider to keep green energy sources ethical and to prevent corporate corruption and greenwashing of these alternative energy sources. This should be worth considering for those interested in green energy , especially for solarpunks practicing prefigurative politics, to prevent these issues in the future.

Do you mind providing a source for this information? It seems to contradict this

Maybe so but the article isn’t really talking about that. It just used that as a phrase to exemplify the versatility of batteries and how these could be a greener solution for advanced technologies they are used for.

You and @Mihies@programming.dev can find more info about the project including many more articles on their website . The company is responsible for the world’s largest solar project . Do you have anything to support your arguments? You have been presented with counter arguments and not provided any info . Why do you think they wouldn’t have considered clouds in Indiana?

That’s one of the many Myths about solar energy as home panels do work on cloudy days and a solar farm of this magnitude would have to consider that before reaching this phase .

No worries, friend. It’s a valid point. Publications do try to pull readers in with vague wording sometimes. If the rest of the world follows China’s model maybe things will improve on a more global scale.

I don’t read it that way as it doesn’t specify at all. That’s the article’s headline. It’s just shared as it is

Agreed but I don’t think that’s what the article is trying to say.

Thanks. That’s effectively what the article says. It’s confirming what locals have long known / suspected. Thanks for your perspective.

I don’t see that at all. The article focuses on how strong Solar Power is in Pakistan without mass green energy policy from the government. Its performing strongly due to popular demand and implementation

Thanks. They definitely discussed propane in the article

Thanks. That’s useful information for the uncertain years ahead. For now the article says

“Our math shows R-32, plus good refrigerant management, those two things combined solve almost all of the refrigerant problem,” said Romanin. “Because of that data, Gradient believes the industry should stay on R-32 until we’re ready for natural refrigerants.”

It may not be useful to make country by country comparisons given that each has its own set of obstacles in the way of green energy. Not all solutions are collectively adaptable yet, it’s true.

It sounds like it’s a new construction on former agricultural land to me.

I do too. It seems their source is the architectural firm which doesn’t provide many details at this point.

The headline does seem a little like clickbait. Thanks for looking into it and sharing what you found.

The article is focusing on California as an example so that doesn’t seem entirely necessary but you could look to Norway to discover how they deal with this:

Vertical Panels are one solution as are Snow Repellent Panels and heated solar panels

Beyond simply the headline, the first two paragraphs from the article directly address this and site their source ( mentioned quoted above ) which further addresses the issue you are mentioning.

From the scientific journal directly sited in the article :

It’s true that solar energy is only produced when the sun is shining on solar panels. Likewise, wind energy is dependent on the ebb and flow of air currents. But the sheer volume of renewable energy being deployed, the ability to store that energy for longer, and to match demand with supply using software, creates a balanced grid.

According to BloombergNEF, lithium-ion battery cell densities have almost tripled, and costs have declined by almost 90% in the past decade – making it easier to smooth out the peaks and troughs of generation to meet the shifts and cycles of demand. Renewable energy sources themselves have dropped by as much as 82% over the same timeframe. Further improvements to both generation and storage will continue driving down costs, making renewable energy even more attractive to consumers.

The article could definitely use an editor