Foreign policy is always really low on the list of voter priorities. Also, “Nazis blush”? Come on. That’s fucking ridiculous.
It’s comparable to Nazis in that both are genocide, but the comparison begins and ends with, “and the Nazis were way fucking worse.” Which is fine. It doesn’t have to be a competition for it to be a bad situation that you want to do something about.
I mean it’s also comparable to the Nazis in that the ideologies are almost exactly the same (the whole the Chosen People TM must remove the subhumans for Lebensraum rhetoric specifically is so close it’s not even funny) even if the scales are different because Israel needs to do the absolute bare minimum to save face on the international stage.
I don’t like the comparison to the Holocaust for the same reasons you said, but comparing Israel to Nazis has a lot of merit.
Edit: Also foreign policy tends to be low on voters’ priority list, except when genocide or other large-scale crimes against humanity are involved. It’s easy to forget this because Israel has controlled public perception of the conflict for a long time, but Americans have a decently long history of being very much not okay with genocide (when they’re not the ones committing it). You’ll see this today in progressives dropping Biden over Gaza; normally it’d be more than just progressives, but Israel has controlled public opinion for so long (and so successfully tied their existence to US Christian death cults’ eschatology) that it’s still only a limited segment of the total population.
I mean of course, but “just” doing genocide doesn’t make you a Nazi. There are many non-Nazi genocides in history, so picking the Holocaust in particular needs to have some merit and it doesn’t here. If anything this is more resembling of the Native American genocide, only with modern weaponry.
listen to yourself man. but but nazis did the same, but way more!
its preposterous this even has to be a reasonable comparison.
the fact its foreign policy is the problem, i get it. it may be why all these voters are EAGER to vote for far-left joe biden. as long as he pinky promises to tax the rich, for realsies this time.
you get he could stop this trolley at any time, right?
It’s too late to feign offense at quantifying atrocities. If you’re going to compare them, which you explicitly did, yes the Nazis were worse and wouldn’t blink, much less blush, at Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. Without question.
You think people don’t know what they’re getting with Biden? We absolutely do, and there isn’t a single comparison by which Trump comes out ahead. That includes treatment of Palestinians.
The choice between Biden and Trump is an easy one.
so you think taking offense at a genocide is… fake?
the nazis are blushing again my man, your attitude is similar to that of germans in the 20s and 30s, and you might as well be one of them. no wonder you seem to not understand why people don’t want to support a genocide.
MLK was right, you guys are just nazis painted blue. you dont care as long as you can still afford your hamburguers, and feel yourself superior for “choosing” the blue fascists instead of the red ones.
let me be real with you: your refusal to get up your fat ass and actually do something about it will bring you to higher body counts than the nazis, because the numbers seem to be all you care about.
Foreign policy is always really low on the list of voter priorities. Also, “Nazis blush”? Come on. That’s fucking ridiculous.
It’s comparable to Nazis in that both are genocide, but the comparison begins and ends with, “and the Nazis were way fucking worse.” Which is fine. It doesn’t have to be a competition for it to be a bad situation that you want to do something about.
I mean it’s also comparable to the Nazis in that the ideologies are almost exactly the same (the whole the Chosen People TM must remove the subhumans for Lebensraum rhetoric specifically is so close it’s not even funny) even if the scales are different because Israel needs to do the absolute bare minimum to save face on the international stage.
I don’t like the comparison to the Holocaust for the same reasons you said, but comparing Israel to Nazis has a lot of merit.
Edit: Also foreign policy tends to be low on voters’ priority list, except when genocide or other large-scale crimes against humanity are involved. It’s easy to forget this because Israel has controlled public perception of the conflict for a long time, but Americans have a decently long history of being very much not okay with genocide (when they’re not the ones committing it). You’ll see this today in progressives dropping Biden over Gaza; normally it’d be more than just progressives, but Israel has controlled public opinion for so long (and so successfully tied their existence to US Christian death cults’ eschatology) that it’s still only a limited segment of the total population.
if the nazi comparison is only bad because the numbers arent there yet, then i have bad news for you…
What are you trying to say?
that genocide is a bad thing.
the apologia for it on this thread is pretty disgusting tbh
I mean of course, but “just” doing genocide doesn’t make you a Nazi. There are many non-Nazi genocides in history, so picking the Holocaust in particular needs to have some merit and it doesn’t here. If anything this is more resembling of the Native American genocide, only with modern weaponry.
it looks pretty similar to nazis, same kind of propaganda and rhetoric, same kind of justifications and all…
listen to yourself man. but but nazis did the same, but way more!
its preposterous this even has to be a reasonable comparison.
the fact its foreign policy is the problem, i get it. it may be why all these voters are EAGER to vote for far-left joe biden. as long as he pinky promises to tax the rich, for realsies this time.
you get he could stop this trolley at any time, right?
It’s too late to feign offense at quantifying atrocities. If you’re going to compare them, which you explicitly did, yes the Nazis were worse and wouldn’t blink, much less blush, at Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. Without question.
You think people don’t know what they’re getting with Biden? We absolutely do, and there isn’t a single comparison by which Trump comes out ahead. That includes treatment of Palestinians.
The choice between Biden and Trump is an easy one.
so you think taking offense at a genocide is… fake?
the nazis are blushing again my man, your attitude is similar to that of germans in the 20s and 30s, and you might as well be one of them. no wonder you seem to not understand why people don’t want to support a genocide.
MLK was right, you guys are just nazis painted blue. you dont care as long as you can still afford your hamburguers, and feel yourself superior for “choosing” the blue fascists instead of the red ones.
let me be real with you: your refusal to get up your fat ass and actually do something about it will bring you to higher body counts than the nazis, because the numbers seem to be all you care about.
This isn’t even a good faith argument. I can tell because you just make up whatever straw man you want and argue against it.
oh no. hating genocide can’t be in good faith, right?
no need to make up strawman when you gleefully say pretty fascist things to me with what i assume is a straight face.
If Nazis did way more, they wouldn’t be blushing.
Magicshel is countering your extreme exaggeration by putting it into perspective.
you guys seem to be offended by the comparison.
the fact you are not offended by the genocide, instead by being called out on it, yeah there are nazis blushing out there.