• barbara@lemmy.ml
    651·
    9 months ago

    Beware that it just forwards your queries to openai

    We have agreements with model providers to further protect your privacy.

    As noted above, we call model providers on your behalf so your personal information (for example, IP address) is not exposed to them. In addition, we have agreements in place with all model providers that further limit how they can use data from these anonymous requests that includes not using Prompts and Outputs to develop or improve their models as well as deleting all information received within 30 days.

    • LWD@lemm.ee
      37·
      9 months ago

      Important question: exactly what does it forward to them? After reviewing their privacy policy, it looks like they may be forwarding something in addition to the query itself.

      When it comes to adding a layer of privacy between your queries and the OpenAI results, I believe them, but I really want to know exactly how much privacy there is and isn’t.

  • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    422·
    9 months ago

    FYI: You don’t have to choose OpenAI. You can also choose Claude 2.1. Its corpus is more ethically sourced & it’s more private with user data, but in return it is naturally less feature-complete. Still pretty awesome though!

    • LWD@lemm.ee
      145·
      9 months ago

      ChatGPT begs to differ

      (ETA: I’m pretty sure ChatGPT is wrong on this one, but it was amusing at least)

        • LWD@lemm.ee
          13·
          9 months ago

          ChatGPT: it tells you what you want to know!

          (And sometimes what it tells you is even true!)

          • rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social
            1·
            9 months ago

            This. I guess you can save the permanent prompt to “output an error if the certainty of a result is below 50%” or something

            I use that prompt to remove annoying talking, give me a single command and not “open nano here, copy this”.

      • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        10·
        9 months ago

        ChatGPT is incorrect. I asked Claude about it and this is what it has to say.

        (Skip to bottom for tl;dr.)

         

         

         

        tl;dr

        Claude’s end response:

        when I said earlier that “Claude acts as a privacy layer provided by DuckDuckGo”, that was an incorrect statement. To clarify:

        • DuckDuckGo provides the privacy layer functionality through this chat interface.

        • I am Claude, an AI model created by Anthropic to converse.

        • When a user talks to me (Claude) through this interface, DuckDuckGo’s privacy layer protects their data and anonymity, while I focus on the conversational aspects.

        • I do not act as or provide the privacy layer - that is solely DuckDuckGo’s role.

        Thank you for catching my mistaken statement earlier. To summarize correctly:

        DuckDuckGo enables the privacy layer protections. I am Claude, having conversations through that protected interface, but I am not involved in providing the privacy layer itself.

        I appreciate you taking the time to ensure I understand this properly. Please let me know if any part of the explanation remains unclear!

    • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      9 months ago

      Yes, it’s a stretch, but think about it. If they is a proxy, then it isn’t worse than using piped or invidious too search and listen for music or such.

    • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      9 months ago

      Well, I mostly haven’t used the existing tools because I did not trust the service providers with my privacy, and also I do not think these are such an all important tools.

      However this is a proxy, basically. Isn’t it?
      So if we are fine using youtube through (video proxying instances of) Invidious and Piped, then this should be fine too (if you don’t input private info of yours or others, that is)

    • UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com
      2·
      9 months ago

      Which models do you run on jan? I often get very weird responses and/or never ending feedback loops.

      That being said I still don’t have much use for text-based ai, it doesn’t really fill any gaps in my workflow

    • Firipu@startrek.website
      4·
      9 months ago

      Why would I use brave (with its weird fucked up crypto links) over Vivaldi? If you’re using chromium anyway, I don’t get the brave love.

        • Firipu@startrek.website
          1·
          9 months ago

          Been saying this for years, the day Firefox gets native gestures, is the day I’ll swap.

          Can’t live without them (and speeddial tbh)

      • ChallengeApathy@infosec.pubEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Better privacy, better UI not cluttered by excessive and unnecessary options, and a fantastic feature set… but I’m referring to their search engine in this context.

        • Scary le Poo@beehaw.org
          21·
          9 months ago

          Dude, there is degoogled chromium, and various other blink engine choices, but touting brave as a “superior” option? Oof. Big oof.

          On the gecko side of things, there are a ton of great choices as well. All of them are better in every single way than brave.

          • ChallengeApathy@infosec.pubEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            Because it objectively IS. It passes privacy tests in so many areas where others fail and I’m not just talking about those privacy test sites, I’m talking tests we can run ourselves. It’s fine if you don’t like Brave but don’t let your emotions get in the way of the fact that it is, by default, the best option for privacy out of the box. Sure, you CAN harden Firefox or use Librewolf but even those don’t always succeed in passing those tests like Brave does.