Patently false. There are many, many who earned their infamy. All those involved in the kidnapping of children, the rapists, those firing on civilians, and all the leadership encouraging all these reprehensible acts to name a few.
@YeetPics@LaFinlandia Disagree totally. He’s the #1 cause, yes, but he is not the only one. He could not do this without help, and he’s had plenty. He’s enlisted people from Bulgaria, Turkey, and other countries who specialize in atrocities and torture. He’s allowed violent criminals out of prisons to go to war. He has help. They need to pay for their crimes, too. #WarCrimes#PutinWarCriminal#RussiaUkraineWar#RussianInvasion
Is it equally as valid to hate Chinese people because of the atrocities that occurred under Xi?
Something tells me that hating an ethnic group because their government leadership feeds them half truths is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Then again half the political discussions I’ve seen on Lemmy end with calling to nuke entire hemispheres of the planet, maybe this level of nuance doesn’t fit here lmao.
That’s like saying only Hitler was bad in Nazi Germany. And before the whole “NoT EvErY RuSsIaN” argument comes up: silence is compliance!
The Russians who are truly against what their country is doing already left in 2022, before the mobilization. Everyone else who is not actively fighting their regime is complicit.
You can’t expect every single person that didn’t left Russia to want ukrainians to be murdered and tortured. People there are poor, their entire life is there, their country makes everything to prevent them from escaping and other countries are wary in their regard. You can’t make it that simple
being physically or economically unable to leave a country does not equal supporting putins russia, and how do all the minorities in russia that want their own independence tie into this? should they also leave what they see as a different country because on paper its part of russia? should all the remaining ukrainians leave ukraine were it to be fully occupied and used as a base to attack another country? you act as if russia isnt a truly large country that can be generalized to such extreme extents while theres enormous differences and disagreements within european russia alone
putins russia is a genocidal regime and no1 disagrees with that, but problems of raging alcholism and learned hopelessness among the regular people aside it is not as simple a matter as you boil it down to. everyone have their own fights and many people simply do not have the courage or ability to essentially fight a country but that does not make them worse than others
The only Russian who’s really earned the hatred is Putin, I’m not surprised his sycophants are feeling pressured.
Hexbear and .ml seem equally as dismayed, constantly lashing out with violent rhetoric.
Patently false. There are many, many who earned their infamy. All those involved in the kidnapping of children, the rapists, those firing on civilians, and all the leadership encouraging all these reprehensible acts to name a few.
@YeetPics @LaFinlandia Disagree totally. He’s the #1 cause, yes, but he is not the only one. He could not do this without help, and he’s had plenty. He’s enlisted people from Bulgaria, Turkey, and other countries who specialize in atrocities and torture. He’s allowed violent criminals out of prisons to go to war. He has help. They need to pay for their crimes, too. #WarCrimes #PutinWarCriminal #RussiaUkraineWar #RussianInvasion
Is it equally as valid to hate Chinese people because of the atrocities that occurred under Xi?
Something tells me that hating an ethnic group because their government leadership feeds them half truths is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Then again half the political discussions I’ve seen on Lemmy end with calling to nuke entire hemispheres of the planet, maybe this level of nuance doesn’t fit here lmao.
That’s like saying only Hitler was bad in Nazi Germany. And before the whole “NoT EvErY RuSsIaN” argument comes up: silence is compliance! The Russians who are truly against what their country is doing already left in 2022, before the mobilization. Everyone else who is not actively fighting their regime is complicit.
There’s a middle point between “the dictator is the only bad guy” and “literally every person on a country the size of a continent is the bad guy”
Yes, see my last sentence.
You can’t expect every single person that didn’t left Russia to want ukrainians to be murdered and tortured. People there are poor, their entire life is there, their country makes everything to prevent them from escaping and other countries are wary in their regard. You can’t make it that simple
Yes, I very much can, because I know what it means if we are compliant with genocidal war mongering terror regimes and where that leads to.
being physically or economically unable to leave a country does not equal supporting putins russia, and how do all the minorities in russia that want their own independence tie into this? should they also leave what they see as a different country because on paper its part of russia? should all the remaining ukrainians leave ukraine were it to be fully occupied and used as a base to attack another country? you act as if russia isnt a truly large country that can be generalized to such extreme extents while theres enormous differences and disagreements within european russia alone
putins russia is a genocidal regime and no1 disagrees with that, but problems of raging alcholism and learned hopelessness among the regular people aside it is not as simple a matter as you boil it down to. everyone have their own fights and many people simply do not have the courage or ability to essentially fight a country but that does not make them worse than others