His sources are pretty mid, but he’s right. A lot of people who like to trash Trump for yelling about election fraud also seem to forget democrats have done the same thing in the past.
Also, the whole “both sides are the same is bullshit” tagline is very Reddit. Doesn’t work as well here, where conservatives aren’t systematically banned for not agreeing with the hivemind.
Except Horseshoe Theory is hot garbage. “Both Sides” is what lazy people come up with. That’s like saying hot and cold are practically the same, because they are both temperatures.
And remember when they kept claiming election fraud long after they lost, and brought 60+ lawsuits, and called Secretaries of State to “find me X votes,”, and tried to get the vice president to decertify peoples votes, and tried to send fake Electors to vote for them, and planned to use the Insurrection Act to stay in power?
But please, go off about how they’re fundamentally the same.
planned to use the Insurrection Act to stay in power
Which they didn’t, lmfao.
So yeah, as to the issue of complaining about election fraud, they are fundamentally the same. Got any more areas that you want me to remind you of the democratic equivalent for, or would you prefer to actually watch the primary source that you pretty blatantly disregarded before posting all that?
No. And I’ll be the first to say they made some idiotic moves. But that’s not the same as trying to send fake certificates and a fake slate of Electors, which has landed some of those electors in legal jeopardy. Both bad, magnitude very different.
planned to use the Insurrection Act to stay in power
Which they didn’t, lmfao.
Oh, soooo much better. It’s a good thing Project 2025 doesn’t exist… Also, name me a Democrat that ever even floated such an idea.
So yeah, fundamentally the same. No differences at all. Practically the same party. /S
name me a Democrat that ever even floated such an idea
CHAZ was an actual insurrection in Portland undertaken by left-wing groups. Unless you’re talking about elected democrats, in which case feel free to name an elected Republican that was ever proven to have done that.
Got any substantive points, or are you going to just keep peddling misinformation?
There is no room for this kind of false equivocation in any honest conversation. You’re parroting sheer --and dangerous– propaganda. Take that back to Russia or wherever pays you 10 cents to post it.
I mean, yeah. I gave you a primary source of a plethora of prominent democrats, including the current president and vice president, claiming election fraud when Trump was first elected.
I’m guessing your overly abundant use of question marks and italics, as well as lack of any sort of substantive retort other than claiming propaganda, is related to your cognitive dissonance. I’m sorry this doesn’t fit your world view.
That’s not what a “primary source” is. Links to websites are not primary sources. This is pretty basic stuff.
No, my abundant use of question marks and italics was to emphasize just how stupid and dishonest what you wrote was. You’re a dishonest propagandist and you are making the world a worse place. Be better than that.
That’s a good policy to have, sugarbuns. Bolster that with a side of honesty and respect and you’d actually be a decent person to talk to, instead of a propaganda spewing clown. Petunia.
Go back to your troll cave with this “both sides are the same” bullshit.
His sources are pretty mid, but he’s right. A lot of people who like to trash Trump for yelling about election fraud also seem to forget democrats have done the same thing in the past.
Also, the whole “both sides are the same is bullshit” tagline is very Reddit. Doesn’t work as well here, where conservatives aren’t systematically banned for not agreeing with the hivemind.
Except Horseshoe Theory is hot garbage. “Both Sides” is what lazy people come up with. That’s like saying hot and cold are practically the same, because they are both temperatures.
https://theconversation.com/horseshoe-theory-is-nonsense-the-far-right-and-far-left-have-little-in-common-77588
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory#Academic_studies_and_criticism
Fuck off with your victimization complex, and go educate yourself.
So, are you denying that democrats claimed election fraud when Trump was elected?
And remember when they kept claiming election fraud long after they lost, and brought 60+ lawsuits, and called Secretaries of State to “find me X votes,”, and tried to get the vice president to decertify peoples votes, and tried to send fake Electors to vote for them, and planned to use the Insurrection Act to stay in power?
But please, go off about how they’re fundamentally the same.
Which is also in the video I provided.
The Democratic Party itself sued Trump claiming his election was illegitimate.
So a recount, lol.
Democrats did the same thing for Trump — it’s literally within the first two minutes of the video that you apparently neglected to watch.
Democrats tried to get republican electors to reject their oath and vote against the actual election results — very democratic, right?
Which they didn’t, lmfao.
So yeah, as to the issue of complaining about election fraud, they are fundamentally the same. Got any more areas that you want me to remind you of the democratic equivalent for, or would you prefer to actually watch the primary source that you pretty blatantly disregarded before posting all that?
And wouldn’t you know it? They stopped. Meanwhile Trump is still beating that drum.
Last I checked, 60 > 1. Also, they had real evidence. Trump had The Kraken.
Yeah, such a “perfect call,” it landed him RICO charges in GA and two other upcoming similar cases in NV and LA. But yeah, jUsT a ReCoUnT.
No. And I’ll be the first to say they made some idiotic moves. But that’s not the same as trying to send fake certificates and a fake slate of Electors, which has landed some of those electors in legal jeopardy. Both bad, magnitude very different.
Oh, soooo much better. It’s a good thing Project 2025 doesn’t exist… Also, name me a Democrat that ever even floated such an idea.
So yeah, fundamentally the same. No differences at all. Practically the same party. /S
Nope, they didn’t.
Nope, they didn’t.
Charges are not convictions.
The Supreme Court affirmed that the nonconforming electors in 2016 broke state law and upheld criminal penalties against them.
CHAZ was an actual insurrection in Portland undertaken by left-wing groups. Unless you’re talking about elected democrats, in which case feel free to name an elected Republican that was ever proven to have done that.
Got any substantive points, or are you going to just keep peddling misinformation?
Trump and Democrats have done the same thing???
Get the fuck right out of here.
There is no room for this kind of false equivocation in any honest conversation. You’re parroting sheer --and dangerous– propaganda. Take that back to Russia or wherever pays you 10 cents to post it.
I mean, yeah. I gave you a primary source of a plethora of prominent democrats, including the current president and vice president, claiming election fraud when Trump was first elected.
I’m guessing your overly abundant use of question marks and italics, as well as lack of any sort of substantive retort other than claiming propaganda, is related to your cognitive dissonance. I’m sorry this doesn’t fit your world view.
That’s not what a “primary source” is. Links to websites are not primary sources. This is pretty basic stuff.
No, my abundant use of question marks and italics was to emphasize just how stupid and dishonest what you wrote was. You’re a dishonest propagandist and you are making the world a worse place. Be better than that.
Oof, you’re really gonna hate that the definition of a primary source includes videos. Pretty basic stuff.
Might wanna consider applying that “stupid and dishonest propaganda” tagline to your comment. Seethe some more sweetie.
Okay “sweetie.” I’ll take your sincerely regurgitated propaganda to heart, dearie. You have a good night, lovey.
You can definitely be better than this, sweetcheeks.
While you use words of hate, I try to use words of love. Be better honey.
That’s a good policy to have, sugarbuns. Bolster that with a side of honesty and respect and you’d actually be a decent person to talk to, instead of a propaganda spewing clown. Petunia.