what are you talking about mate. I’m saying I want them to spend it on healthcare… on housing… on transportation and better infrastructure.
and by the way. I’d take the gaudy buildings over a fucking malfunctioning (a pilot just recently had to EJECT DURING A TEST FLIGHT)
… expensive to maintain stealth jet (1.7 trillion JUST FOR THIS)
when we already have the world’s largest arsenal by far.
which…btw what do you suppose we do with all the jets and arsenal we already have???
how is this not just us yet again over manufacturing.
what war are we going to start next to justify this.
As a Finn he doesn’t personally benefit from U.S. citizens having affordable health care but the weapons they develop may be used to protect HIS homeland. Like everyone else he has personal interests.
They generally don’t. All the possible benefits are very abstract and very long term. If you can get people to give a fuck its because of in your face humanity and decency not such abstractions.
okay bud since taking care of your working class doesn’t matter I hope you get misttreated at your job then some shut happens and you have no-one to turn to.
it’s insane you would even insinuate that taking care of your populations needs and keeping workers happy isn’t something worth caring about holy shit.
you guys just love the boot on here or something it’s wild or maybe you guys are all like Harvard grad executives or somethin.
so out of touch imo.
obviously you wanna keep your workers happy, obviously it doesn’t seem to be a priority at all and that’s okay with you guys lol. it’s so wild to me.
I’m just saying there’s way better needs to be met than hundreads of billions into a jet that still has plenty of issues even today
you guys getting so mad about that only proves how brainwashed we are its insane.
a jet won’t keep away ww3.we can improve our current forces without getting freaking milked bs constantly taking the worst part of the deal.
also diplomacy is a thing maybe we should reply more on diplomatic charisma than military might… which by the way is not a ll the end all be all.
insane leaders will still do insane things. again we already have an insane arsenal that we should just be taking care of and putting money into rather than just abandoning it.
I’m just saying the way we spend on military is incredibly inefficient and unneeded -,-
literally I’ve linked to government sites of like government organizations that track shit like this like they even know they’re getting fucked and you guys are on here like white knighting the us govt it’s wild
and ww3 is gonna happen not from putin but from the insanely unstable conditions WE FUCKING CREATED (look up bitter lake… excellent documentary on this)
that is where instability and power (from oil money) is rn. not saying that we shouldn’t support Ukraine but just that its popular red herring rn. there is already a genocide going on… and we are funding it.
To recap. He said as a person in a threatened NATO country he was glad we spent lots of money on our military because it might be needed to help protect his country. You said something on the order of “what are you even talking about” I explained this in smaller words.
You said some warm fuzzy stuff and I said if you wanted people to care you had to make them care about people not abstractions. You then went off on 17 tangents and that brings us up to date.
You seem to feel like I’ve taken a contrary position everything you’ve ever said or indeed thought based on you projecting everything your mad about onto me. Have you considered having a coffee and leaving and coming in again?
also lets not forget. the gaudy buildings won’t be used to commit yet more war crimes that get hand waved away. so imo I’ll take the fucking buildings.
we need more gaudy buildings here every fucking city looks the same it’s all surburbia fucking cars nightmare.
or defend a country from a fascist genociding dictator LIKE PUTIN. WE ARE SEEING IT IN REAL TIME. You think he’ll stop with Ukr?? The countries bordering Ru sure don’t think so, nor the rest of NATO.
Wake the fuck up, the world is far more complex than “don’t modernize any defense resources, nothing will ever happen except for the possibility of war criming others!”
Do ya see how fucking short sighted and ridiculous that is?
also my brother in Christ we support Israel which is genociding rn. we also genocided the native Americans and so I still don’t get your point.
you sound so headass it’s funny.
and yes putin may not stop with Ukraine but that’s because he’s putin. again he’s not gonna give a fuck about some jet.
they have nukes bro. if he wanted to do some crazy shit he would. and a jets not gonna stop him.
they have nukes.
wake the fuck up
we need proper diplomacy not another fucking jet
get it through your head.
also your last ooo U is so fucking absurd. we can don’t need the f35 to modernize our defense resources we need to retire the older models we still use and upgrade to what we already can.
an ad again I ask you who is the us at threat from seriously? you’ll prolly sya like china or Russia when in fact it’s our own dumbasses and misappropriation that’s going to ruin the country. by not investing in the population duhh
like I said. the us isn’t some helpless damsel. we already have the world’s most advanced arsenal OVERALL
Only thing aircraft wise is maybe chinass j35 but again.
we are already funding a genocide. in a much more unstable region mind you.
the world is more complex than ‘fund new jet to prevent war!’ and again there are other ways we could modernized the arsenal rather than finding failure over bloated projects like the f35.
btw the us is only recently landing f35s in the UK raining area
F-35 fighter jets land in NATO-member Denmark to replace F-16s, some of … https://apnews.com/article/denmark-ukraine-f35-f16-fighter-jets-2470e553fd7211a02e5f50f8e787d213
so I doubt its had much impact on what putin does.
I think star link and elons antics weigh more than the f35s honestly.
and again Russia is a nuclear power. ultimately unless we can deal with that. the only way is to s9me sort of negotiation. not endless war lol.
a new shiny jet is not the own you think it’s gonna be on putin. people like trump just say shit like that and you guys eat it up. reality is Russia has always been not at the same level as NATO led forces. however that STILL didn’t stop what is happening.
so many people were like it could not happen it would be dumb Russia doesn’t have the caabillity and yet they STILL did it.
so why the fuck are you coming in here like yea you don’t know what you’re talking about the f35 is actually exactly what we need to prevent this stuff.
when all it would do at best is give us a slight more of an edge when shit inevitably hits the fan because you don’t deal with a fucking nuclear power by brandashing better jets. this isn’t fucking gta dude.
NATO in its current form could already deal with threat from putin. why the fuck do you think Ukraine wants to join? alliances and strategic diplomatic actions are how you deal with this not fucking jets while your people starve, end up homeless, and are unable to pay for healthcare or not having enough savings to cover a 200$+ accident.
like we need to pay more fucking attention here domestically dude. wake the fuck up.
what are you talking about mate. I’m saying I want them to spend it on healthcare… on housing… on transportation and better infrastructure.
and by the way. I’d take the gaudy buildings over a fucking malfunctioning (a pilot just recently had to EJECT DURING A TEST FLIGHT) … expensive to maintain stealth jet (1.7 trillion JUST FOR THIS) when we already have the world’s largest arsenal by far. which…btw what do you suppose we do with all the jets and arsenal we already have??? how is this not just us yet again over manufacturing. what war are we going to start next to justify this.
it’s so sickening
Finland is in NATO. USA is the main power in NATO. Big USA military good for us.
Jesus Christ we already have a big military wtf are you on about?
you’re saying us doesn’t already have a big military?!
I don’t know if you’ve been drinking or something but no I said nothing like that.
As a Finn he doesn’t personally benefit from U.S. citizens having affordable health care but the weapons they develop may be used to protect HIS homeland. Like everyone else he has personal interests.
oh yea nobody benefits from the people making their products being happier and healthier. lol this is you rn
They generally don’t. All the possible benefits are very abstract and very long term. If you can get people to give a fuck its because of in your face humanity and decency not such abstractions.
what? okay so we should just allow mistreating your working class then? wtf are you on about
okay bud since taking care of your working class doesn’t matter I hope you get misttreated at your job then some shut happens and you have no-one to turn to. it’s insane you would even insinuate that taking care of your populations needs and keeping workers happy isn’t something worth caring about holy shit.
you guys just love the boot on here or something it’s wild or maybe you guys are all like Harvard grad executives or somethin. so out of touch imo.
obviously you wanna keep your workers happy, obviously it doesn’t seem to be a priority at all and that’s okay with you guys lol. it’s so wild to me.
I’m just saying there’s way better needs to be met than hundreads of billions into a jet that still has plenty of issues even today
you guys getting so mad about that only proves how brainwashed we are its insane.
a jet won’t keep away ww3.we can improve our current forces without getting freaking milked bs constantly taking the worst part of the deal. also diplomacy is a thing maybe we should reply more on diplomatic charisma than military might… which by the way is not a ll the end all be all.
insane leaders will still do insane things. again we already have an insane arsenal that we should just be taking care of and putting money into rather than just abandoning it.
I’m just saying the way we spend on military is incredibly inefficient and unneeded -,-
literally I’ve linked to government sites of like government organizations that track shit like this like they even know they’re getting fucked and you guys are on here like white knighting the us govt it’s wild
and ww3 is gonna happen not from putin but from the insanely unstable conditions WE FUCKING CREATED (look up bitter lake… excellent documentary on this)
that is where instability and power (from oil money) is rn. not saying that we shouldn’t support Ukraine but just that its popular red herring rn. there is already a genocide going on… and we are funding it.
To recap. He said as a person in a threatened NATO country he was glad we spent lots of money on our military because it might be needed to help protect his country. You said something on the order of “what are you even talking about” I explained this in smaller words.
You said some warm fuzzy stuff and I said if you wanted people to care you had to make them care about people not abstractions. You then went off on 17 tangents and that brings us up to date.
You seem to feel like I’ve taken a contrary position everything you’ve ever said or indeed thought based on you projecting everything your mad about onto me. Have you considered having a coffee and leaving and coming in again?
also lets not forget. the gaudy buildings won’t be used to commit yet more war crimes that get hand waved away. so imo I’ll take the fucking buildings.
we need more gaudy buildings here every fucking city looks the same it’s all surburbia fucking cars nightmare.
or defend a country from a fascist genociding dictator LIKE PUTIN. WE ARE SEEING IT IN REAL TIME. You think he’ll stop with Ukr?? The countries bordering Ru sure don’t think so, nor the rest of NATO.
Wake the fuck up, the world is far more complex than “don’t modernize any defense resources, nothing will ever happen except for the possibility of war criming others!”
Do ya see how fucking short sighted and ridiculous that is?
also my brother in Christ we support Israel which is genociding rn. we also genocided the native Americans and so I still don’t get your point. you sound so headass it’s funny. and yes putin may not stop with Ukraine but that’s because he’s putin. again he’s not gonna give a fuck about some jet. they have nukes bro. if he wanted to do some crazy shit he would. and a jets not gonna stop him. they have nukes. wake the fuck up we need proper diplomacy not another fucking jet get it through your head.
also your last ooo U is so fucking absurd. we can don’t need the f35 to modernize our defense resources we need to retire the older models we still use and upgrade to what we already can.
an ad again I ask you who is the us at threat from seriously? you’ll prolly sya like china or Russia when in fact it’s our own dumbasses and misappropriation that’s going to ruin the country. by not investing in the population duhh
like I said. the us isn’t some helpless damsel. we already have the world’s most advanced arsenal OVERALL Only thing aircraft wise is maybe chinass j35 but again.
we are already funding a genocide. in a much more unstable region mind you. the world is more complex than ‘fund new jet to prevent war!’ and again there are other ways we could modernized the arsenal rather than finding failure over bloated projects like the f35. btw the us is only recently landing f35s in the UK raining area F-35 fighter jets land in NATO-member Denmark to replace F-16s, some of … https://apnews.com/article/denmark-ukraine-f35-f16-fighter-jets-2470e553fd7211a02e5f50f8e787d213 so I doubt its had much impact on what putin does.
I think star link and elons antics weigh more than the f35s honestly.
and again Russia is a nuclear power. ultimately unless we can deal with that. the only way is to s9me sort of negotiation. not endless war lol. a new shiny jet is not the own you think it’s gonna be on putin. people like trump just say shit like that and you guys eat it up. reality is Russia has always been not at the same level as NATO led forces. however that STILL didn’t stop what is happening.
so many people were like it could not happen it would be dumb Russia doesn’t have the caabillity and yet they STILL did it.
so why the fuck are you coming in here like yea you don’t know what you’re talking about the f35 is actually exactly what we need to prevent this stuff. when all it would do at best is give us a slight more of an edge when shit inevitably hits the fan because you don’t deal with a fucking nuclear power by brandashing better jets. this isn’t fucking gta dude.
NATO in its current form could already deal with threat from putin. why the fuck do you think Ukraine wants to join? alliances and strategic diplomatic actions are how you deal with this not fucking jets while your people starve, end up homeless, and are unable to pay for healthcare or not having enough savings to cover a 200$+ accident.
like we need to pay more fucking attention here domestically dude. wake the fuck up.