Also, why the fuck do we always start to come together and then find a reason to shit all over ourselves? I’m hard left leaning but like fuck man, it’s hard being covered in verbal shit all the time from all the people that seem so intent on arguing against just coming together. The Republicans can do it, and they’re fucking imbeciles…
People keep acting like Dem voters are asking for a perfect candidate, they’re not.
Whitimer is probably the most likely to get tapped and still win, but AOC would make the 2024 election look like a Harlem Globetrotters game. The DNC just won’t pick a progressive
Also, why the fuck do we always start to come together and then find a reason to shit all over ourselves?
Because when we “come together” it’s always progressives holding their noses, moderates getting exactly what they want, and Dem voters not liking what the moderate did once we put them in power.
Look at Obama, Hillary did the whole PUMA thing, but with a progressive candidate, the moderate wing just isn’t fucking needed.
The problem is party leadership are all moderates, and only a tiny slice of Dem voters are.
The commenter above imo didn’t mean to talk about self-id when they said or implied something like “most (dem) voters are progressive.” They imo meant progressive policies are broadly popular.
Well then if they meant something different than what they said, they should have said something different in the first place. A majority of Democrats are moderates, full stop. The popularity of progressive policies is irrelevant.
Well would you look at that. It’s not self identification:
Pew Research Center’s new political typology provides a road map to today’s fractured political landscape. It segments the public into nine distinct groups, based on an analysis of their attitudes and values.
It’s identity based on attitudes and values.
I repeat, the popularity of progressive policies has nothing to do with this conversation. Move along.
The DNC does not decide if AOC runs or not, just like they couldn’t choose whether Bernie ran or not. Otherwise they would have.
AOC decides if AOC runs.
I don’t share your optimism that she would sweep though, I think she’d come across as too young to a lot of voters. I’m hoping she picks up a Senate seat soon, and then runs from that in the future. I think it’ll put her in a better position to win.
WHO do voters want?
People keep saying to run someone.
Who??
Also, why the fuck do we always start to come together and then find a reason to shit all over ourselves? I’m hard left leaning but like fuck man, it’s hard being covered in verbal shit all the time from all the people that seem so intent on arguing against just coming together. The Republicans can do it, and they’re fucking imbeciles…
…who keep winning!
Not trump. And not Biden…
People keep acting like Dem voters are asking for a perfect candidate, they’re not.
Whitimer is probably the most likely to get tapped and still win, but AOC would make the 2024 election look like a Harlem Globetrotters game. The DNC just won’t pick a progressive
Because when we “come together” it’s always progressives holding their noses, moderates getting exactly what they want, and Dem voters not liking what the moderate did once we put them in power.
Look at Obama, Hillary did the whole PUMA thing, but with a progressive candidate, the moderate wing just isn’t fucking needed.
The problem is party leadership are all moderates, and only a tiny slice of Dem voters are.
Fifty-two percent of Democratic voters are moderates. Only 12% are progressive. You don’t help your argument by making statistics up out of thin air.
You don’t have to self-id as a progressive to support progressive policies.
That has nothing to do with my comment or the comment I responded to.
The commenter above imo didn’t mean to talk about self-id when they said or implied something like “most (dem) voters are progressive.” They imo meant progressive policies are broadly popular.
Well then if they meant something different than what they said, they should have said something different in the first place. A majority of Democrats are moderates, full stop. The popularity of progressive policies is irrelevant.
You had me up to this sentence:
The popularity of progressive policies is the only relevant concern. It’s self-id that is irrelevant.
Well would you look at that. It’s not self identification:
It’s identity based on attitudes and values.
I repeat, the popularity of progressive policies has nothing to do with this conversation. Move along.
Wrong. Next.
The DNC does not decide if AOC runs or not, just like they couldn’t choose whether Bernie ran or not. Otherwise they would have.
AOC decides if AOC runs.
I don’t share your optimism that she would sweep though, I think she’d come across as too young to a lot of voters. I’m hoping she picks up a Senate seat soon, and then runs from that in the future. I think it’ll put her in a better position to win.
Tim Walz!