Agreed, I think those are reasonable. However, I don’t want my kids playing TF2 because there’s a ton of cheaters and I hear it can be a bit toxic (I haven’t played recently at all), and probably not League because of the MTX to buy heroes (though that’s far better than most other live service games). They can play those games when they get a bit older (again, my kids are <10).
But most other F2P games are unacceptable IMO, especially when there are much better paid games without all that nonsense.
Yeah, I totally get not wanting kids to play online games.
The main reason I wanted to bring these things up is because it seems you have more of a problem with live service games done poorly rather than with the principle of them on their own.
Just because there are a few decent live service games doesn’t change the fact that the model is predatory, just like a few good mobile games existing doesn’t change the fact that mobile gaming is a cesspool of predatory games.
I will always prefer games without MTX to games with them. For every good F2P game (i.e. games that respect the player’s time, aren’t pay-to-win, etc), I can point to several popular, predatory games. The ratio for popular paid games is much better.
So a handful of decent games doesn’t mean the model isn’t terrible, it just means there are some exceptions. And I’m absolutely willing to make exceptions to my rules.
I’ve never felt like Tf2 and league don’t respect my time. Just because some games are shit, doesn’t mean they all are
Agreed, I think those are reasonable. However, I don’t want my kids playing TF2 because there’s a ton of cheaters and I hear it can be a bit toxic (I haven’t played recently at all), and probably not League because of the MTX to buy heroes (though that’s far better than most other live service games). They can play those games when they get a bit older (again, my kids are <10).
But most other F2P games are unacceptable IMO, especially when there are much better paid games without all that nonsense.
Yeah, I totally get not wanting kids to play online games.
The main reason I wanted to bring these things up is because it seems you have more of a problem with live service games done poorly rather than with the principle of them on their own.
Just because there are a few decent live service games doesn’t change the fact that the model is predatory, just like a few good mobile games existing doesn’t change the fact that mobile gaming is a cesspool of predatory games.
I will always prefer games without MTX to games with them. For every good F2P game (i.e. games that respect the player’s time, aren’t pay-to-win, etc), I can point to several popular, predatory games. The ratio for popular paid games is much better.
So a handful of decent games doesn’t mean the model isn’t terrible, it just means there are some exceptions. And I’m absolutely willing to make exceptions to my rules.