• wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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    1 year ago

    Knocking people off the stage isnt the part that makes smash uncomparable to other fighting games.

    Its the fact that its technically a platforming game, and a multiplayer game, which frequently incentivizes running and hiding from opponents, and has a built in random trip mechanic to fuck you over for no reason other than coin flip handicapping you, among a myriad of other examples of how the game can make the weaker player win.

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      1 year ago

      When the Smash meta revolves around playing sub-optimally until the other player trips, let me know.

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        1 year ago

        Bagging isnt sub optimal either, its just not empty brain w+m1 gameplay.

        Youre upset the racing game is more dynamic? There are many other racing games with less complex and risky strategies

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          1 year ago

          I meant sub-optimally in terms of actually racing. Optimal speed would be getting the lowest time in the race. Bagging would be aiming to not get the fastest lap each time. I probably could’ve chosen a better word, my bad.

          I’m not upset about anything. But isn’t this post about Nintendo removing/reducing bagging? So maybe some others are upset about that change. But it seems like a good thing to me.

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            1 year ago

            Its also sub optimal speed to lag a bit so a blue shell doesnt blow you up, but since its a mario style cartoonish video game you often find that the optimal play isnt to have the smallest or biggest number at all times.

            I would say any change that makes mario cart less like mario cart and more like other racing games is a change that makes a worse game. A racing game that involves more strategy than the rest is more interesting than a racing game thats just more cartoony.

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              1 year ago

              I think lagging behind for OP items is less interesting than a skill-based race.

              In a party environment, those OP items are great. Bullet Bills help the new player spice up the friendly environment. But if the pro is lagging behind specifically to get OP items, I think that makes it less fun and less interesting.