It feels dirty to agree with an ISP on something. But even the worst corporations are on the right side of something from time to time I suppose.

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    Internet shutoffs should require a court order. Not some emails that are “this person did a bad 🥺🥺🥺 no proof but can you please take our word for it 🥺🥺🥺🥺”

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      Internet shutoffs shouldn’t be a thing, outside of non-payment or legitimate abuse. If I do something illegal, they should have to sue me, not shut off my internet.

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        Yeah, they don’t disconnect a criminals phone service because they committed a crime and made a phone call. It makes no damned sense.

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          Only happens as a matter by court order and is a limit on the person not on the corporations. Though if found out after by the court it can be ordered terminated. And you will face further punishment. But this is levied against the person. As in “You are not allowed to do a thing and if we find out you did the thing you will face further punishments.” Corporations should not have the responsibility or ability to determine any ones eligibility. They are a businesses not a government.They are responsible for their own tos and should never be anything more.

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          Actually, that’s been done several times over the decades. As well as banning computer access. The guy caught hacking into the fbi gets his mouse and keyboard taken away.

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        If you do something illegal, you should be arrested.

        Copyright infringement lawsuits are a far cry from bomb threats or the like.

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            Yeah, I’ve been ticketed for speeding, and that certainly doesn’t come with the threat of arrest unless I’m driving super recklessly or something (but that’s a different offense altogether).

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            So you’re saying copyright infringement is on par with speeding or parking past the meter’s end? Eh, fair enough.

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              Honestly it is less severe than speeding. Copyright was an invention of the pre-digital era. Now that we all use computers, so many things we do every day are technically copyright infringement that it is absurd to even have these kinds of conversations.

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              I was just pointing out a logical fallacy. It’s literally impossible to do the thing you said.

              This is just facts, they aren’t an opinion

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        Maybe not a court order. But I could get behind a process similar to other utilities where you have months or warning and paperwork.

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      I don’t pirate these days, but when I did (and was stupid about it) the emails/letters had pretty exact evidence.

      They included the name of the work, my WAN IP address at the time, and the amount of data transferred (uploaded) out from it.

      This was in the US and I’m unaware of how such notices work in other countries that work similarly.

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        That’s all they can get though they have no proof it was actually you and not someone else using your Internet, how they find out is they join the public trackers and just log everyone in it generally even without a VPN on private trackers they have no idea what you are doing