Thus, conservatism and neoliberalism are, in reality, the radical agenda…

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    Conservatism isn’t what you think it is. Conservatism is, and always has been, about establishing and maintaining social/power/wealth hierarchies and inequity. It only happens to correlate with “prevent[ing] a radical change” to the status quo only to the extent that the status quo has historically been hierarchical and inequitable.

    Conservatism and conservationism might share a Latin root, but that’s where the similarity ends.

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      Not necessarily true. In Canada the Conservative party led the way on conservation of the Commons before the green party even existed. Not anymore, obviously, but in the past, yes.

      They were NIMBYs with farms, essentially.

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      No conservativism is about using government power conservatively. It’s about only using the government when it’s absolutely necessary to do so.

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    That’s conservationism.

    Conservativism and conservationism are not the same thing.

    The terms “conservative” and “liberal” refer to how much government power should be used.

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    Nope.

    Conservative as a label in politics vs conservative as in slow to change are as different as theory in science and how lay people use theory to mean speculation.

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      Oh, I’m well aware political and ideological “conservatism” is like North Korean “democracy” — nothing more than a hollow, objectively false, virtue signal.

      I just find it hilarious that the literal definition of conservative is the opposite. It’s so comical it’s like an allegory of their entire being. Like they fundamentally, to their very core, can’t be trusted…

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      Conservative in politics is the same as in conservative in using the gas pedal, conservative in how much butter one puts on toast, conservative in estimates.

      It’s about using as little as possible. As in “small government”.

      A liberal helping of mashed potatoes is a big helping. A conservative golf swing is one designed to keep the ball from going too far. It’s the same concept when applied to politics.

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        If that was true conservatives wouldn’t be trying to speedrun the running longstanding public programs into the ground or overturning decades of precedent.

        They don’t mean the same thing.

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    Others here have explained the political meaning of “conservatism”. I think maybe you conflated that word with conservationism. They are definitely not the same thing.