Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
Hard no. I’ll move on like I did a year ago from Reddit, and I was on that site for 14 years.
Just from a political/nation-state viewpoint, it would needlessly expose information to make it easier for countries and political parties to keep some kind of “social score” and decide when to do something to you. China already does this kind of stuff.
We need to make it easier for everyone/anyone to do this? Think about all of the super-divisive issues at hand. People can already get a sense of your views from your responses, and that should be it.
State/nation actors can easily track this information without an UI setting. Just set up any software that uses activitypub and subscribe to any AP group (i.e, Lemmy community) that you want to get up votes/downvotes (Like/Dislike activities).
Either you are conflating two different applications of cryptography or you know something that I don’t. And as someone with a pretty good grasp of blockchain applications, I’d love to hear if you have something novel.
Perhaps you mean something like Zero-Knowledge Proofs to verify who voted in an AP object without having to reveal it? This would probably work, but then you have to have all those nasty blockchain-y things like validator nodes and expensive proof generators… If we go that route we might as well go all the way and just use a fully p2p system.
If you open via browser, it linked to this post but in Kbin, there you can find your comment and click “More” then “Activity”, click the “Favorite” tab and you can see the people who voted your comment.
Edit: to clarify, kbin already have that ability to see upvote(favorite) and downvote(reduce). I think admin also have the ability to set the visibility of downvote because i used to use kbin to check for random downvoter before admin here get the update for the function.
Hard no. I’ll move on like I did a year ago from Reddit, and I was on that site for 14 years.
Just from a political/nation-state viewpoint, it would needlessly expose information to make it easier for countries and political parties to keep some kind of “social score” and decide when to do something to you. China already does this kind of stuff.
We need to make it easier for everyone/anyone to do this? Think about all of the super-divisive issues at hand. People can already get a sense of your views from your responses, and that should be it.
State/nation actors can easily track this information without an UI setting. Just set up any software that uses activitypub and subscribe to any AP group (i.e, Lemmy community) that you want to get up votes/downvotes (Like/Dislike activities).
Man I would have assumed that information would be cryptographically obfuscated while still being verifiable, like monero.
How would it work? The other instances still need to know what actor is behind the activity.
Also, why? This is social media, not official elections. “Votes” here are completely meaningless.
Like monero. However monero does it is the strategy I propose.
For the same reason it’s not readily available already.
Either you are conflating two different applications of cryptography or you know something that I don’t. And as someone with a pretty good grasp of blockchain applications, I’d love to hear if you have something novel.
Perhaps you mean something like Zero-Knowledge Proofs to verify who voted in an AP object without having to reveal it? This would probably work, but then you have to have all those nasty blockchain-y things like validator nodes and expensive proof generators… If we go that route we might as well go all the way and just use a fully p2p system.
Just so you’re aware
https://kbin.earth/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/267356/Lemmy-devs-are-considering-making-all-votes-public-have-your/favourites
I’m not sure what this is supposed to tell me, sorry man.
That yor votes are already public.
If you open via browser, it linked to this post but in Kbin, there you can find your comment and click “More” then “Activity”, click the “Favorite” tab and you can see the people who voted your comment.
Edit: to clarify, kbin already have that ability to see upvote(favorite) and downvote(reduce). I think admin also have the ability to set the visibility of downvote because i used to use kbin to check for random downvoter before admin here get the update for the function.
Votes are already public, lemmy just doesn’t let you see them in the interface.