• Junkhead@slrpnk.net
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    2 months ago

    I think most people simply don’t appreciate what having a child is and what a massive responsibility it is. Bringing another human being into this world is a gift, one that you should be expected to nurture and love no matter what.

    The problem is that many believe that a child is simply an extension of oneself and can be manipulated and contorted into whatever the parent wants. A child is not you, a child is not a free workforce, or laborer. Too many people who do not truly understand what they are bringing into this world are parents and thats why theres so many flawed individuals.

    I think most people shouldnt have children and especially right now with the way the worlds headed but to say having children is completely wrong is immensely stupid.

    (in addition i myself am abstaining from having children because i dont want the responsibility and i find the lil shits annoying.)

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      2 months ago

      I think most people simply don’t appreciate what having a child is and what a massive responsibility it is.

      I think you’re talking out of your own ass, if you believe that most parents don’t know all that.

  • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Ignore or assume we fix socioeconomics, environment, etc.;

    Is having a child moral given the child cannot consent to being born?

    (Not offering any opinion or trying to lead towards any answer)

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      2 months ago

      I mean… with all the negativity in this thread, every single person here is consenting to be alive every single day. While there are a number who choose an early exit, the vast vast statistical majority overwhelmingly consent to live another day every day. With such stats I feel like it’s fine to assume the default status is consent in this context.

      Plus, speaking of morals, we’re just dumb little apes. You give us too much credit if you think we can fight the greatest biological urge of all life over something we’ve completely invented in our minds : morals, and the morals of the unborn is like double hypothetical.

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        2 months ago

        "by waking up today, you consent to continue existing, and acknowledge the suffering it brings. Do you wish to continue?”

        [yes] [yes]

        no the fuck I do not. If I had a magicall button that would let me stop existing without the risk of damaging my neck and spending the rest of my life incapacitated but alive, and it didn’t cause trauma to the people around me, I would have pressed it fucking years ago.

        vast statistical majority overwhelmingly consent to live

        what disgusting mental acrobatics