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    This US election is not about who wins, but who doesn’t win. Project 2025 is an attack on democracy and fair elections as a whole. Want to argue about actual political issues? Vote blue. Want to fight for fundamental rights the next 4 years? Vote red, 3rd party or just don’t vote.

    Using a 3rd party vote to protest the system is saying you’re choosing between equal evils. Saying a convinced fellon, insurrectionist and known fascist is an equal evil as a person with actual reasonability and literally zero negative qualifications just proves you have the moral compass of a sand dune.

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      Project 2025 will be implemented regardless of who is president fyi. The court system is captured by fascists and the executive branch can’t stop it. Vote for Kamala if it makes you feel good tho

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      we don’t have a democracy. majority of Americans and almost entirety of dnc voters are against genocide in gaza and fracking. yet harris has been very much in support. forget support she has been actively participating for a year and removing anti-israel speakers from her rallies.

      after obama, we became “one party two candidates” system where they run gaslighting campaign every four years and do what lobbyists tell them to do.

      and wtf on bringing moral compass on not wanting to vote for a genocider who has only spit on poor people in her entire public service. question her and the dnc for choosing corruption and dead children over their voters and fight against facism. they are the one who don’t care about getting trump elected because their gravy train will keep running. infact pelosi will have to pay lower taxes on all that insider trading she has been doing for decades.

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        You want to call something a farce? Thinking the US has more than two parties is a farce. We can hate on it all we want but the fact is that your 3rd party vote will only help the GOP.

        Political differences is how elections should be fought, this one is about much more than that.

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          3rd party is not farce. if your self-respect allows you to vote for them then good for you. mine doesn’t.

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            Your voting has no impact on who will run the country. When you eventually get off your high horse think about your two options, if you still don’t see the massive difference between the evil the GOP or the DNC prescribes, you might just be the problem.

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              you still don’t see the massive difference between the evil the GOP or the DNC prescribes, you might just be the problem.

              yeah sure, if the last four years were under gop you will be braying 24/7 for impeachment then execution. there is threshold after which it doesn’t matter who is more evil, and current dnc is above that limit.

              one doesn’t consider which of the two pedophile running for principal will be better for school. they should be both shot.

              the system creating that situation is the problem, not me. and i don’t need anyone’s endorsement to believe otherwise.

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                People have been using your rethoric since Hillary v. Trump. It didn’t hold up then and it doesn’t hold up now, and the GOP won because of it. Gaining more 3rd party votes since decades, the DNC lost even with a majority vote.

                The system is fucked, with that I agree, and there is one party trying to change it and one trying to abuse it.

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                  we all know why dnc lost in 2016 people are going to be pissed if dnc claim to fight for democracy while fucking over their base. and that too for someone like Hillary ?

                  i voted for her then, then voted for biden and in last four years it has became the most depressing decision of my life. seeing him smugly hug netanyahu and him getting a gandhi treatment in senate has completely shattered my trust.

                  to be clear i am not some rich christian white guy who is not gonna be affected by trump, i am also of indian heritage as harris, a country which has also suffered colonial oppression as recently as world war 2. whats going on in gaza is thousand times worse and not something i can look over as a taxpayer and a human being.

                  and dnc don’t want to fix this, they are happy with duopoly where they get to fool us every few years. look into jill stein record of why she left DNC. she was then fighting for coal workers working in cancerous air in mines while harris was prosecuting homeless and poor for petty crimes and advocating for harsher sentences. and now the dnc is using the lobbyists money to malign her with false narratives in a massive pr campaign.

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                    I hear you, in a system where votes are distributed equally and where a duopoly isn’t an eventuality, you’re absolutely supposed to vote for the party you allign most with. The current system does not permit this, causing a black and white world of politics. Not participating in this is your right, and with two regular candidates, we’d probably never have this conversation.

                    One party has the rationality to change its opinion and work on mutually beneficial solutions, and the other party polarises the population, advocates for violence and creates lies and deceptions at every corner.