• yesman@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    What is the lesson they are supposed to learn? Stop running women candidates?

    Harris’ loss wasn’t some Electoral College bullshit, or 3rd party spoiler. Maybe the Palestinian vote cost her Dearborn, but it can’t explain the numbers throughout Michigan, much less Georgia and North Carolina.

    I’m skeptical that leftest policy would save the Democrats when the country just roundly rejected liberalism.

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        3 days ago

        I didn’t hear much of anything about social spending, creating a ton of jobs or any plan at all for the federal govt to help the bottom 80% outside of “we’ll help families buy their first house” from the Kamala campaign. When we rolled into the last month and I still hadn’t heard about the big economic plan I knew we were cooked.

        First houses are great and all but what about people who can’t afford their own place to live, or healthcare, or enough food? Folks have been living with parents since the pandemic, food banks are seeing record use right now and they campaigned on neoliberal business as usual with more growth for Wall St? “We’re very proud of Bidenomics”? Bidenomics did great pulling us out of the pandemic slump but then inflation happened and we never pivoted to giving folks any help getting back to where they were before the pandemic happened. Nor did we make a show of going after corporate profiteering, we just let that happen without a peep. What about mass layoffs over the last couple of years followed by record setting stock buybacks, dividend payouts and corporate profits?!

        Your usual base of well off educated voters who see the long term stability and overall growth benefit Dems bring showed up of course but everyone else stayed home because more neoliberalism after 30y of that plan leaving 80% of us behind simply doesn’t inspire hope or excitement. Meanwhile you had the other guy shouting “I’ll break laws to change things!” Guess which of those is more popular right now?

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      3 days ago

      The lesson is they shouldn’t have abandoned the working class. Instead of listening to working class concerns, they told the working class they were wrong. For example, they waited way too long to care about immigration even after Bill Clinton tried to do something about it in the 90s.

    • Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world
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      The left rejected the Democrats’ corporate neoliberalism. Some held their nose and voted for the lesser evil despite loathing them, but too many couldn’t bring themselves to do it.

      The lessons to be learned:

      • Nominate Bernie Sanders when you have one. Be popular with the working class.
      • Get rid of the shitty FPTP voting (= two party system) despite Democrats benefiting from it, because Republicans benefit even more now that they don’t have any spoilers or single-issue nonvoters.
    • theneverfox@pawb.social
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      3 days ago

      How about “make some fucking enemies”. Of course no one likes liberal positions - we’re living it and it sucks.

      The people want change, not to carefully untangle the neo from the liberal over the course of decades to avoid stepping on any toes