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Nobody was “abused” this is out of hand. Site suspend the kid or whatever that did it, some kind of school punishment, but jail? And lawsuits over some ai images? Crazy.
The lawsuit was about the fact the school knew for months about the problem and did nothing to address it. If they plausibly couldn’t know, it wouldn’t have been their fault but this was reported to the admin repeatedly and they did nothing.
I have mixed feelings about this prosecution of ai deepfakes.
Like obviously people should have protection against becoming a victim of such and perpetrators should be held accountable.
But the line “feds are currently testing whether existing laws protecting kids against abuse are enough to shield kids from AI harms” would be a incredibly dangerous precedent because those are mostly designed for actual physical sex crimes.
As wrong as it is to create and distribute ai generated sex imagery involving non consenting people it is not even remotely as bad as actual rape and distributing real photos.
Creating and distributing anything should be legal if no real person suffers during its creation and if it’s not intended at defamation, forgery, such things.
Bruh how is creating and distributing a non-consensual nude-ified picture of a young girl not a cause for suffering for the victim? Please, explain that to the class.
Did you just not go to school as a kid? If so, that would explain your absolute ineptitude on this topic. Your opinion is some real “your body, my choice” kind of energy.
There’s a legitimate discussion to be had about harm reduction here. You’re approaching this topic from an all-or-nothing mindset but there’s quite a bit of research indicating that’s not really how it works in practice. Specifically as it relates to child pornography the argument goes that not allowing artificial material to be created leads to an increase in production of actual child pornography which obviously means more real children are being harmed than would be if other forms were not controlled in the same fashion. The same sort of logic could be applied to revenge porn, stolen selfies, or whatever else we’re calling the kind of thing this article is referring to. It may not be an identical scenario but I still think it would be fair to say that an AI generated image is not as damaging as a real one.
That is not to say that nothing should be done in these situations. I haven’t decided what I think the right move is given the options in front of us but I think there’s quite a bit more nuance here than your comment would indicate.
I think this is probably a really good point. I have no issue with AI generated images, although obviously if they are used to do an illegal thing such has harassment or defamation, those things are still illegal.
I’m of two minds when it comes to AI nudes of minors. The first is that if someone wants that and no actual person is harmed, I really don’t care. Let me caveat that here: I suspect there are people out there who, if inundated with fake CP, will then be driven to ideation about actual child abuse. And I think there is real harm done to that person and potentially the children if they go on to enact those fantasies. However I think it needs more data before I am willing to draw a firm conclusion.
But the second is that a proliferation of AI CP means it will be very difficult to tell fakes from actual child abuse. And for that reason alone, I think it’s important that any distribution of CP, whether real or just realistic, must be illegal. Because at a minimum it wastes resources that could be used to assist actual children and find their abusers.
So, absent further information, I think whatever a person whats to generate for themselves in private is just fine, but as soon as it starts to be distributed, I think that it must be illegal.
It may not be an identical scenario but I still think it would be fair to say that an AI generated image is not as damaging as a real one.
“The deepfakes are often used to extort, harass or bully minors, she says, and are easy to make because of the many sites and apps that will “nudify” an image.”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/deepfake-minors-porn-explicit-images-1.7385099
Read my comment again.
Your opinion is some real “your body, my choice” kind of energy.
My advice to you would be to improve your reading comprehension before judging this way.
In particular, the word “defamation”.
You would be fine with AI-gen porn images of your teenage daughter being distributed around the internet?
I take it, the word “defamation” is not part of your lexicon.
The issue being discussed does not fall under defamation.
Making forged pics of someone else falls under defamation.
It’s very clearly not rape, sexual abuse, child pornography or non-consensual pornography.
Title is misleading?
An AI-generated nude photo scandal has shut down a Pennsylvania private school. On Monday, classes were canceled after parents forced leaders to either resign or face a lawsuit potentially seeking criminal penalties and accusing the school of skipping mandatory reporting of the harmful images.
Classes are planned to resume on Tuesday, Lancaster Online reported.
So the school is still in operation.
Shut down for one day at least.
researchers concluded that “outlawing all deepfakes is unrealistic and unfeasible”—especially since all the harmful AI-generated images that are already out there are likely to “remain online indefinitely.”
Just think a little bigger:
It must be a crime to have the harmful material.
Have it on your PC or phone —> goto jail.
Have it in your online account —> goto jail.
Be a service provider and have it on your server —> goto jail.This will reduce the stuff.
This will also make it trivial to target someone and have them sent to jail. I could literally post an image, right now, and it would be on your current device. Using your logic, you’d be liable and on your way to jail.
You really haven’t thought this through. What happens if I email you a bunch of illegal pictures? Guess we’re both going to jail.
Oh but I don’t need to think too much through it. It is pretty much the legal situation in Germany (and probably several other European countries). There may be some edge cases that I don’t know.
Of course, if you send stuff to me, then you are the first of the evil ones :) and if I can convince the judge that I did not know and did not want (!) the stuff (and by the way, how did they even know about it? Even before I had the chance to delete it?), there will be room for a reasonable decision.
yuppp, exactly like in North Korea.
nice !
