Just to give one more take (without contributing any hostility, I hope!) - one way to look at it might be that you see this new development (Thompson’s murder and the nation’s “hell yeah!”) as the scary, dangerous step too far, whereas maybe many of us see the scary dangerous step(s) too far as having already happened (maybe long) in the past.
We’re in a really scary situation as a country, and that was almost exactly as true the day before Thompson’s murder as it is today. The significant events leading to our scary situation are a list of egregious misdeeds and manipulations by people in power, stretching back years - even if I take your premise that it’s wrong, this is just yet one more event (if a notable acceleration). I sincerely believe that a few more gray hoodies might actually send things back in the right direction and bring the owner class back to the negotiating table. As it stands (and ~equally true two weeks ago), the social contract in this country is in tatters. The rich get everything, everyone else - nothing, not even the healthcare we already frickin bought.
Laws are not virtuous by default, is it a moral judgment against killing itself here, or is the problem that it was not a legal act? Of course don’t let me reduce your position to one of my own two phrasings lol, but I am curious about the specific objection you have.
I really appreciate your perspective. It definitely helped me feel better about how hostile the rest of the responses have been.
I do already share that same thinking that it has been pushed too far long ago, though slowly to an extent.
I guess I have trouble wrestling with how far of a distance there is between the CEOs actions and their effects having caused deaths of many. It seems that the logic of that makes obvious sense, but there’s so many steps in between that it also seems so different from direct murder. Because of that distance of actions is what I feel makes it murder.
If we don’t consider this a murder and then continue that logic, at what point of involvement with the company does it stop and then become murder?
Still, I feel like this action, that I still feel is very wrong, is starting to give the people more power and the voice we should have had all along. So the results of this have seemed to benefit the people who have been victims of the predatory health insurance system.
I personally don’t ever want to feel good about killing another person. Even if justified. That just seems wrong.
Well, I can understand your point of view without sharing it. As for the hostility, beyond most folks just following whatever up/downvoting they see taking place already, there’s a critical element here that shouldn’t be missed - the positive response has been largely bipartisan, which is rare and valuable. And not only is it bipartisan, it points out an important truth which any resident of this country would do well to keep in mind -
At this stage of the game, we might be a hair’s breadth from realizing that it hasn’t been Democrats vs. Republicans for a long time, it’s just all of us regular folks vs the abusive rich (+their enablers).
I’m reaching here, but if other people feel that way, I can imagine wanting to discourage anything that takes away from a sudden (much needed) feeling of unity.
I’m just concerned about the lack of acknowledgement that this was a murder and the glorification of killing. Like I said before, I don’t see why we can’t feel good about what this has accomplished so far while also acknowledging that murder and killing is bad. It just seems like a mindless mob rather than a rally behind an ideology backed with logic.
That’s a consistent and reasonable take. Mob violence can be unpredictable and harmful to its own causes. I’m certainly willing to call it murder myself, while also being glad for it. And I condemn going after the person who called in the tip, for many reasons, but succinctly - that person cannot possibly bear enough responsibility for the state of things, even acknowledging the actions they sure didn’t have to take, to be an appropriate target of anything like what happened to Brian Thompson.
…bad act? …bad for? …bad (subjective terms of meaning)?
I’ll just absolutely discard any respect for any sense of absolute reference by use of calling something any kind of pure wrongness in being conducted.
Let’s get down some subjective good, shall we?
The murder of this tyrannical hand of neglecting fucks given “repsect” over the handling of the life of those who gave him trust with the means to continue their life’s necessary tools withheld in exchange for the collection of management sheets, Talismen, the Dollar, $$, of dispensation which were granted trust by the many within his hand being denied in distribution. Greed at best being the reason but more truthfully, murder en mayhem is his act to thieve all value granted said tools of governmente, Mind Control.
So then, describe to me any means other than the burning of the trust within the paper as we see the trust will be culled into the hands of yet another who will do no more mind of care for the lives given the sheets trust.
In short, either we eat the rich or burn the dollar. You pick or go be a voluntary slave again.
There is nothing outside this trinary of choice in hand. The murder, you are correct, will not remove us from subjugation whilst syphoning all to the return of value to the people as well when we respect an actor in position of responsibility given trust for lies telling us to drink his piss being an act of value.
They still drink his piss and believe the lie that crack cocaine wasn’t a trick flipping blame to point any trigger at any people instead of money itself. Crack cocaine and every other drugs was a trick and a lie that you cannot trust yourself to do as you will regardless of consequences.
This surrender to the will by the Talisman, the $$, and the invocation of the two 16 cards invoked a bit over two decades ago, will not but union your subjugation to and with and to willness existence.
In short, murder is pointless but for a tyrannical’s method of signing your acceptance of slavery being the only righteous means of correct choice with what little you have left these days.
Burn the dollar like Heath Ledger or you will wish your slavery was as kind as the horrible folks of the south given to stolen people.
Apologies that I’ve written over your comprehension. Drugs are a pretty weak insult made. If you were at all correct or understood a single real thing about them you would be able to make your insult with any kind of accuracy but as anyone capable of seeing the truth, you’re likely scared shitless. Learn magick or succumb to this acceptance of your entire reality being defined by some three letter definition’s chalk scraping on your brain.
Help at…? Where exactly to you give up your specificity necessary for your counter to be an accepted reality before your acknowledgment that this frightening denial of the reality’s invokation was not read by me. The hint is that is it not I who has evoked he “IA! FTHAGN!”. That you’re clearly recognizing. Wake the fuck up, child. Or you will become part of that cult destroying all of earth. Cthulhu will wipe you all off and from of your physical existence to boot!
If you’re at actually familiar with the recent acknowledgement of the L’s work being on the flipside of Mother’s life today than he depicted the side of then you may realize that the cultures aren’t nephandi’s. The technocratic are. Shoot this in your log and watch what happens to me! Especially bite where I’ve called the memberance.
Just to give one more take (without contributing any hostility, I hope!) - one way to look at it might be that you see this new development (Thompson’s murder and the nation’s “hell yeah!”) as the scary, dangerous step too far, whereas maybe many of us see the scary dangerous step(s) too far as having already happened (maybe long) in the past.
We’re in a really scary situation as a country, and that was almost exactly as true the day before Thompson’s murder as it is today. The significant events leading to our scary situation are a list of egregious misdeeds and manipulations by people in power, stretching back years - even if I take your premise that it’s wrong, this is just yet one more event (if a notable acceleration). I sincerely believe that a few more gray hoodies might actually send things back in the right direction and bring the owner class back to the negotiating table. As it stands (and ~equally true two weeks ago), the social contract in this country is in tatters. The rich get everything, everyone else - nothing, not even the healthcare we already frickin bought.
Laws are not virtuous by default, is it a moral judgment against killing itself here, or is the problem that it was not a legal act? Of course don’t let me reduce your position to one of my own two phrasings lol, but I am curious about the specific objection you have.
I really appreciate your perspective. It definitely helped me feel better about how hostile the rest of the responses have been.
I do already share that same thinking that it has been pushed too far long ago, though slowly to an extent.
I guess I have trouble wrestling with how far of a distance there is between the CEOs actions and their effects having caused deaths of many. It seems that the logic of that makes obvious sense, but there’s so many steps in between that it also seems so different from direct murder. Because of that distance of actions is what I feel makes it murder.
If we don’t consider this a murder and then continue that logic, at what point of involvement with the company does it stop and then become murder?
Still, I feel like this action, that I still feel is very wrong, is starting to give the people more power and the voice we should have had all along. So the results of this have seemed to benefit the people who have been victims of the predatory health insurance system.
I personally don’t ever want to feel good about killing another person. Even if justified. That just seems wrong.
Well, I can understand your point of view without sharing it. As for the hostility, beyond most folks just following whatever up/downvoting they see taking place already, there’s a critical element here that shouldn’t be missed - the positive response has been largely bipartisan, which is rare and valuable. And not only is it bipartisan, it points out an important truth which any resident of this country would do well to keep in mind -
At this stage of the game, we might be a hair’s breadth from realizing that it hasn’t been Democrats vs. Republicans for a long time, it’s just all of us regular folks vs the abusive rich (+their enablers).
I’m reaching here, but if other people feel that way, I can imagine wanting to discourage anything that takes away from a sudden (much needed) feeling of unity.
I’m just concerned about the lack of acknowledgement that this was a murder and the glorification of killing. Like I said before, I don’t see why we can’t feel good about what this has accomplished so far while also acknowledging that murder and killing is bad. It just seems like a mindless mob rather than a rally behind an ideology backed with logic.
That’s a consistent and reasonable take. Mob violence can be unpredictable and harmful to its own causes. I’m certainly willing to call it murder myself, while also being glad for it. And I condemn going after the person who called in the tip, for many reasons, but succinctly - that person cannot possibly bear enough responsibility for the state of things, even acknowledging the actions they sure didn’t have to take, to be an appropriate target of anything like what happened to Brian Thompson.
…bad act? …bad for? …bad (subjective terms of meaning)?
I’ll just absolutely discard any respect for any sense of absolute reference by use of calling something any kind of pure wrongness in being conducted.
Let’s get down some subjective good, shall we?
The murder of this tyrannical hand of neglecting fucks given “repsect” over the handling of the life of those who gave him trust with the means to continue their life’s necessary tools withheld in exchange for the collection of management sheets, Talismen, the Dollar, $$, of dispensation which were granted trust by the many within his hand being denied in distribution. Greed at best being the reason but more truthfully, murder en mayhem is his act to thieve all value granted said tools of governmente, Mind Control.
So then, describe to me any means other than the burning of the trust within the paper as we see the trust will be culled into the hands of yet another who will do no more mind of care for the lives given the sheets trust.
In short, either we eat the rich or burn the dollar. You pick or go be a voluntary slave again.
There is nothing outside this trinary of choice in hand. The murder, you are correct, will not remove us from subjugation whilst syphoning all to the return of value to the people as well when we respect an actor in position of responsibility given trust for lies telling us to drink his piss being an act of value.
They still drink his piss and believe the lie that crack cocaine wasn’t a trick flipping blame to point any trigger at any people instead of money itself. Crack cocaine and every other drugs was a trick and a lie that you cannot trust yourself to do as you will regardless of consequences.
This surrender to the will by the Talisman, the $$, and the invocation of the two 16 cards invoked a bit over two decades ago, will not but union your subjugation to and with and to willness existence.
In short, murder is pointless but for a tyrannical’s method of signing your acceptance of slavery being the only righteous means of correct choice with what little you have left these days.
Burn the dollar like Heath Ledger or you will wish your slavery was as kind as the horrible folks of the south given to stolen people.
Either you’re having a stroke or you’ve overdosed on some sort of drug. You need to get help ASAP.
Apologies that I’ve written over your comprehension. Drugs are a pretty weak insult made. If you were at all correct or understood a single real thing about them you would be able to make your insult with any kind of accuracy but as anyone capable of seeing the truth, you’re likely scared shitless. Learn magick or succumb to this acceptance of your entire reality being defined by some three letter definition’s chalk scraping on your brain.
I am legitimately concerned for your well-being. You need help.
Help at…? Where exactly to you give up your specificity necessary for your counter to be an accepted reality before your acknowledgment that this frightening denial of the reality’s invokation was not read by me. The hint is that is it not I who has evoked he “IA! FTHAGN!”. That you’re clearly recognizing. Wake the fuck up, child. Or you will become part of that cult destroying all of earth. Cthulhu will wipe you all off and from of your physical existence to boot!
If you’re at actually familiar with the recent acknowledgement of the L’s work being on the flipside of Mother’s life today than he depicted the side of then you may realize that the cultures aren’t nephandi’s. The technocratic are. Shoot this in your log and watch what happens to me! Especially bite where I’ve called the memberance.