Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    74·
    10 months ago

    Humans have creativity, lateral thinking and the ability to understand context and meaning

    What evidence do you have that those aren’t just sophisticated, recursive versions of the same statistical process?

    • Barbarian@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      41·
      10 months ago

      I think the best counter to this is to consider the zero learning state. A language model or art model without any training data at all will output static, basically. Random noise.

      A group of humans socially isolated from the rest of the world will independently create art and music. It has happened an uncountable number of times. It seems to be a fairly automatic emergent property of human societies.

      With that being the case, we can safely say that however creativity works, it’s not merely compositing things we’ve seen or heard before.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        I disagree with this analysis. Socially isolated humans aren’t isolated, they still have nature to imitate. There’s no such thing as a human with no training data. We gather training data our whole life, possibly from the womb. Even in an isolated group, we still have others of the group to imitate, who in turn have ancestors, and again animals and natural phenomena. I would argue that all creativity is precisely compositing things we’ve seen or heard before.