If you can’t handle me at my worst you don’t deserve me at my best or something

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    I wanna see rfk round up all the adhd and adhd alike. We’re very politically active and we have very poor impulse control. Come on, rfk, put me in a camp with all my people and all the other semi-affluent people who can afford Healthcare. We know you MAGA love guns too so starting out we are petitioning for rifle therapy.

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      Literally what I’ve been saying since his whole ‘camps’ thing came to light.

      We don’t just have poor impulse control (and we do, a lot of it)- many of us have had hobbies and interests over the years that make for a group of people who are each, in their own way, as resourceful as MacGuyver. If you make the mistake of rounding us all up and putting us in the same place, we’ll have a pirate radio and an underground railroad with an actual train in it in a week.

      Our most dangerous phrase is, “I’m bored.” Our second most dangerous phrase is, “You know what would make this better?” And it’s only ever rarely dangerous to us.

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        anecdotally: given the number of people I’ve met who were both neurodivergent and absolutely adore trains, this seems incredibly likely.

        not to mention many of those same people are just the type to have 200TB of music and a whole radio station in their backpack.

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      I think the current administration’s version of rifle therapy would be a firing squad…

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        I think rfk is a completely incompetent wild card. Has no loyalty to trump and no desire to get any of this right. He thinks it’s great people are listening to him but would rather be dropping animal corpses in random ass places.

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        It could work but I doubt anyone within the administration would be who gets shot so it won’t be as effective.

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      I’m sorry but the people who do things like this also have no problem locking their “patients” behind triple strand razor wire and machinegun towers. There will be no “rifle therapy” or plucky camp uprising. The only way to win is to not end up in the camp in the first place.

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        You think they sending people straight to auschwitz? Rfk already talked about this before the election. They would be voluntary work camps that you send your anti-social children to. If they bringing back auschwitz the first people to go won’t be the sons and daughters of people who can afford healthcare in this country.

        If you want to scare people stick with things known to be true. Don’t have to make shit up when there is plenty of authoritarian activity going on right in the headlines.

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          At no point have they felt beholden to the truth. And it doesn’t have to be Auschwitz to kill you. Just ask the Japanese sent to camps during World War 2 and any work camp survivor from Russia, China, North Korea…

          We’ve seen this film before. We don’t have to wait for them to do the big stage reveal.

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    Funny thing is that before all these unnecessary drugs it seemed that there were many fewer people who were nuts

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      Just more severe alcoholism and more domestic abuse. You have no fucking idea what you’re saying. Get your head out your ass.

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      Right on! Also, before they started dissecting dead bodies to find the cause of death in, like, the 16th century, nobody had cancer. We should put a stop to both autopsies and psychiatry! End cancer and mental illness now!

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        You are not considering the explosion of big pharma. Now there are drugs for everything. Now there is a drug to take because the other drug/s you are taking is having a bad reaction. It’s all about selling much, not all, unnecessary drugs.

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          Probably not going to change your mind, but possibly the mind of someone reading this who’s on the fence.

          On the one hand, yes, for-profit healthcare can be incentived to come up with unnecessary treatments, or with over prescribing medications that have their time and place. That’s how the opium epidemic came to be, and that’s why ozempic is trendy among those who don’t really need it.

          On the other hand, healthcare isn’t for-profit everywhere in the world, and neither is research. Especially the latter is often publicly funded. With publicly funded services, the most efficient way to go about health care is to only do necessary treatments and to try and get people off treatment once they don’t need it anymore.

          Yes, we have more medications now than ever before. But that’s because research is progressive. We’re learning more and more about illnesses and how to best treat or even cure them. That’s why life expectancy is on the rise pretty much everywhere where the general public has access to shelter, food, and affordable healthcare.

          The fact that research is progressive is also why you’re seeing more illnesses, especially mental ones, pop up. Some decades ago, we simply didn’t have diagnostic criteria for mental illnesses that we do now. So, for example, autism just wasn’t called autism. Autistic people were just described as odd, crazy, rude, unsociable, lazy etc. For that reason, it makes sense to see a correlation between the number of illnesses and the number of medications, but that doesn’t mean the meds are causing the illnesses. If anything, it’s the other way around: recognizing more illnesses makes for the need for more medications.

          Every medication was created for a purpose and has years and years of science and studies behind it. If we just prescribed random shit that doesn’t help, why would we bother with that?

          However, that doesn’t mean there’s no over prescribing going on and that there’s no, for lack of a better term, evil plots by big pharma. The opium epidemic was willingly created by pharmaceutical companies for the sake of profit. That doesn’t mean that morphine etc. where just developed for that evil plot. It’s a legit necessary painkiller in many cases.

          So to sum up: the meds are all necessary, even if they’re sometimes over prescribed for profit in some places.

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          For me if I have a headache I don’t take a drug for it because its unessential to make the headache go away. If I have a bad reaction to a drug I read the leaflet to see what I should do. Big pharma being a thing is because people pay good money and being a publicly traded company is the fastest way to grow and scale. But doing that causes the business to lose autonomy over their decision making, which is what leads to the scenes in America were people pay £1000 for insulin despite it being cheap to make. And alot of that money goes into research and development of new drugs for illnesses and diseases that people suffer from along side the people who have hundreds of thousands in the stock market who enrich themselves from the profits.

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      It’s almost like identifying and treating mental illnesses has gotten better over time, and we don’t just throw people in mental asylums away from public eye

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      No. They were just drunks at the local bar, drinking themselves into an early grave. Or they joined the military to commit war crimes.

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      unnecessary

      And your credentials are… ?

      there were many fewer people

      And your source is… ?

    • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
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      It was certainly easier to keep your head lodged up your ass and ignore everything that might cause an inconvenience

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      If the drugs were unnecessary then they wouldn’t exist, people have always had chronic problems that can’t be solved, but its better than doing nothing and suffering because of it.

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        Yeah it’s just the common people pretend medication side effects don’t exist, until they do, when they suddenly act surprised and angry that no one told them that drugs had side effects, except they did, but people just throw the paper that should have done that straight into the trash.

        I nearly suffocated thanks to the wrong cough medication, because my mother forced me to take it as she was OK with the same one on a dry cough. But she talks long hours about how psychiatric medications are evil (they’re not, doctors just sometimes neglectiveand shrug off side effects they shouldn’t, and big pharma spends more on ads than on researching better meds).

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      these chemical concoctions are introduced to our system as early as right after birth. no wonder we are all messed up

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          funnily enough I am not an aNtiVaXXeR. crazy how when one even mentions to think about what is being out into your body I am an idiot crazy stupid all of the above. like I said no skin off my back of you all want to stay ignorant and take every piece of info at face value cuz corpos and politicians are immune to telling lies right . I also know what I am afraid of not just spouting shit like you and posting screenshots with no real convo just a mEMe to try to own a rando

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                I’m unhinged? You’re the one complaining that there was no “real convo” and now you get all upset and aggressive when I ask a simple follow-up question to your statement. I thought you “knew what you are afraid of” but here you are immediately trying to deflect.

                Are you afraid of direct answers and making clear statements?

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                  I’m not deflecting anything you are an unhinged loser. I hope you get the help you need peace out

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        We’re all messed up because we’ve built a society that isolates and exploits us while rewarding psychotic behavior via corporations or people acting selfishly without regard for others

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          we’ve been put into a perpetual state of ignorance, confusion, depression and despair. but yes let’s please bash on each other for pointing facts out