• Lopen's Left Arm@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    This is stupid. Don’t throw down an ultimatum you’re unprepared to act on. Are they really going to risk a Trump reelection if Biden doesn’t follow through? Almost certainly not, and they’d be idiots if they did.

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      1 year ago

      Are they really going to risk a Trump reelection if Biden doesn’t follow through?

      I mean yes. Young voters being disappointed with the electoral process and not voting has been a problem for a while, and Biden isn’t making it better. Unfortunately yes, they are likely prepared to act on it.

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    1 year ago

    This comment section should prove a nice starting point for a “if you try to hold Biden to a standard even a tiny bit above ‘is not Trump’, then that means you genuinely want Trump to win” party soldier/false dichotomy insister blocklist…

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      What are people supposed to do when each election is close enough that any loss of support means handing over the presidency to an authoritarian wannabe?

      I’m sure many would like to hold him to a higher standard, but the risk of ending up with a fascist as president is way too high.

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        There you go with the false equivalency.

        You can support politicians without doing so blindly and unquestioningly. In fact, complacency like yours is one of the main factors that caused the conditions that made something as bizarrely awful as a Trump candidacy viable.

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          But you have a two party system?

          Are you still going to vote dem then and just keep making empty threats about not voting for them while requesting ceasefire?

          What are your other options here?

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            The only option is to continue to vote for the least-bad candidates, and work to change the voting system such that a two party system is no longer inevitable.

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              Yeah, because that strategy has been working SO well so far… 🤦

              What was it Einstein supposedly said about the definition of insanity?

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            I see that you’re aggressively ignoring the point in favor of the very false dichotomy I’m on the record as fed up with.

            To list the thousands of better things to do than either a) reflexively defend Biden no matter how wrong his stance is or b) vote for Trump would take a lot of time and effort better used in other ways than speaking to wilfully deaf ears.

            Fortunately, improving my Lemmy experience by adding you to the aforementioned list after adding a user note to remind me why takes significantly less of both than even writing this reply.