• isableandaking@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I don’t get thesr automakers, who is this made for, don’t they see that tesla is killing it with their largr batteries. Why can’t they put a 600miles battery with 2 motors for awd, get some fake noises/feels when changing gears, get some smaller rims with more rubber and put the best brake system for an 18" wheel - which I think is the Brembo Sensify. Keep the physical buttons for important features for easy access, add a huge lcd panel for navigation and include carplay/android auto wirelessly - done deal. Make it cost as much as a full blown tesla model s and call it a day - you just stole 90% of the market. Add quick charging system and then you just gotta start building better charging stations.

    Wait tesla is killing them and if it wasn’t for Musk going full adolf, he could have had the universal people’s car.

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        3 days ago

        Regenerative braking is great for slowing down gradually, but when you really need to stop quick, it’s your brakes that will do most of the work.

        I wouldn’t trust any vehicle with front drums in a panic stop.

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          Which EVs have front drum brakes?

          Regen comes in all different strengths depending on what the automaker decides is appropriate for that car and the budget assigned to it. Cheap EVs like this one you can normally turn it off or on, and may be get a one pedal mode.

          Something like the latest Taycan is pretty brutal with it set to its highest level when traveling at speed and that’s just lifting off the throttle. I feather the throttle when using regen to adjust the level it gives me, otherwise it would be an awful experience for my passengers, bit like some one stamping on the brake every time you want to slow down. Using the throttle to adjust the regen is no different to using the brake pedal progressively once you get used to it.

          Regen is there to supplement the brakes not replace them for emergency or other unplanned stops. Once you doing an emergency stop you are at the mercy of the ABS system anyway, as that will limit your stopping distance based on the actual grip you have at that moment in time.

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        3 days ago

        There’s that, but the problem is weight, with a 600mile range battery it’s gonna be a heavy car, with small 18 inch tires and more rubber to make the ride softer you can’t fit large piston brakes, so you need to make changes to improve the overall experience - think about a system that stops a small EV with the weight of a large SUV faster than a sports car. It would make for an amazing driving experience as EVs have great acceleration, just not the best weight balance, even though it’s mostly kept to the floor for a lower point of gravity. Not to mention you would be saving lives in the case of an accident.

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          more rubber to make the ride softer

          That’s one of the least important contributions to ride softness.

          It would make for an amazing driving experience

          Going forward and stopping are the easiest parts of a vehicle’s driving experience to implement. Now try getting them to corner well-- that’s more challenging. And nobody needs 3-second 0-to-60 times in normal driving conditions.

          Not to mention you would be saving lives in the case of an accident.

          You’d be improving the odds for those inside the vehicle at the expense of other drivers, cyclists and pedestrians. The environmental impact of manufacture is also directly proportional to vehicle mass.

          Anyway, too much of your analysis is based on the current poor energy density of batteries, which has good potential for improvement in the coming years. SUV-sized EVs are an entry point in the market, but regulators should be providing incentives for manufacturers to shrink them instead of staying with the present unsatisfactorily large size, which is not a positive feature, any more than it is for gasoline-powered SUVs.

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      3 days ago

      Well this car is for people who don’t want to spend the kind of money you need to spend on a Tesla. This one is supposed to be cheaper than the Model 3. Also the car you described exists. Porsche, Mercedes and Lotus are selling Model S competitors. The only reason why people drive Model S here in Europe is because Tesla had first mover advantage. Not because they are great cars. People buy them nowadays because a huge supply has hit the used market.

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      3 days ago

      Why can’t they put a 600miles battery with 2 motors for awd

      They do that for more expensive models.

      The advantage of small batteries is higher efficiency and more range per charge hour in addition to a cheaper car.