• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    10 months ago

    Thank you. You better tell the rest of the people in this thread, because they seem hell bent on thinking that I am somehow pro-Israel and they need to aggressively lecture me at length on how Israel actually is committing genocide no matter how many time I say yes, they are. IDK, maybe people got hung up on my one initial statement before I read up and amended it, or maybe me saying that not all the people in the world believe Israel is committing genocide is still too “pro-Israel” a statement, and I’m obviously an enemy.

    I’ve basically concluded at this point that lemmy.ml is a very silly place.

    • gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      You just praised someone who thinks Israel is not committing genocide (“I’d disagree on the will to actually genocide” is genocide denial, because intent is literally part of the definition). You then complain that people don’t think you’re for real when you say “yes, they are”.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        I think I just figured out what the fundamental issue is with lemmy.ml. It’s starting to sound like you don’t think people are allowed to think different things than you do.

        I read that this guy thinks Israel doesn’t have the will to commit genocide, yes. I think they do; many representatives of the current Israeli government have said many times more or less that they want to keep pushing until the Palestinians are all moved elsewhere, dead of starvation, or driven into the sea. But, I’m not stopping the entire conversation to shriek at this guy until he starts agreeing with me about everything (or, more likely, just leaves). It’s okay if I think one thing and he thinks something different.

        And now, the simple fact that I’m willing to talk to him without starting to shriek at him, abandoning the thing we were talking about (which is how to construct the strongest possible case against Israel), is somehow a bad thing.

        In what possible world is being willing to talk with someone who thinks different things than you some kind of “gotcha” that of course I’m lying about what I believe, because I’m having a relaxed conversation with someone who believes something different?

    • Globeparasite@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      happened to me too. People just make shit up based on what they think a comment and build you an opinion they then debunk without asking what your opinion actually is. Best is to do what I do : return to meme making

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Absolutely man. My new philosophy is to engage in a conversation whether I agree or disagree with the person, but then to use “block” and “unsubscribe” pretty liberally if it seems like people are more interested in giving abuse and “winning” than they are in engaging with what I’m saying.