And the overwhelming majority of those kids have up to this point, never given two shits about what has been going on over there before this last year.
Bandwagoning political idealism is cringy as fuck not to mention dangerous.
Ya it’s way better to stay ignorant to the shitty stuff your country does in the world than gain awareness of new issues. It’s cool to support a genocide.
Yeah, there a huge difference when kids cherry pick the issues they want to be upset about and then use use issues as an excuse to not vote.
I never said if ignorance is better. I said they don’t give a shit until it’s cool to be seen giving a shit. Maybe they should try always giving a shit. I’d bet we’d be a lot better of if these idealists worked 24/7. Instead of every four years.
The situation with Palestine and Israel is shit and has been shit for a long time now. Hamas are a bunch of bastards that are standing up against another bunch of bastards. They both suck and neither Hamas nor Israel should be shown any support at all. It’s like when the USSR fought the Nazis in WW2, neither option there was good, and just because the Nazis were slightly worse doesn’t mean the USSR deserved support.
That said while Hamas absolutely doesn’t deserve any support, Palestine and the Palestinian people absolutely do, and the way they’ve been treated by Israel even before the current situation is terrible. The current situation is so much worse though, with Israel just going full mask off genocide now.
Even if the US isn’t going to get involved in that conflict directly the least we could have done is just not support Israel, don’t provide them with weapons, shut the fuck up when other countries start accusing them of war crimes and genocide. Instead we’re doing the exact opposite, sending weapons to Israel and using our international clout to shield them.
Critism of US policy towards Israel has been a growing with the left for years. Now, a major change in the facts on the ground have made it a much more salient issue.
The left, yes. Not these kids that are bandwagoning shit. Because I’ve yet to meet anyone one the left that would refuse to vote over single-issue drama.
I’m a Joe hater, and a voter of Joe Biden, and I agree with @mozz@mbin.grits.dev . I plan to vote for Joe Biden, but campaign against AIPAC-endorsed candidates in favor of democratic candidates willing to be critical about Israel without stepping over the line like “From the river to the sea” chant. Oct 7 happened, and abuses from Israel settlers happened.
The half whos never gonna vote for him because hes a democrat. Biden loses votes when he moves rightward and none of the right is coming to fill in the void.
I didn’t want Biden, but he’s actually been doing fine; I was very surprised. List of accomplishments here, and overview of economic performance here.
Careful, the Joe haters really don’t want to listen right now with the current state of Gaza.
I mean, if it leads to the US rethinking its policy of “Israel can kill as many children as it wants and it’s all good,” I’ll allow it.
Honestly Netanyahu is probably banking on Trump winning, because then he can really get away with doing whatever he wants.
Narrator next year: “It didn’t”
And the overwhelming majority of those kids have up to this point, never given two shits about what has been going on over there before this last year.
Bandwagoning political idealism is cringy as fuck not to mention dangerous.
Ya it’s way better to stay ignorant to the shitty stuff your country does in the world than gain awareness of new issues. It’s cool to support a genocide.
Yeah, there a huge difference when kids cherry pick the issues they want to be upset about and then use use issues as an excuse to not vote.
I never said if ignorance is better. I said they don’t give a shit until it’s cool to be seen giving a shit. Maybe they should try always giving a shit. I’d bet we’d be a lot better of if these idealists worked 24/7. Instead of every four years.
I definitely agree with that last point.
The situation with Palestine and Israel is shit and has been shit for a long time now. Hamas are a bunch of bastards that are standing up against another bunch of bastards. They both suck and neither Hamas nor Israel should be shown any support at all. It’s like when the USSR fought the Nazis in WW2, neither option there was good, and just because the Nazis were slightly worse doesn’t mean the USSR deserved support.
That said while Hamas absolutely doesn’t deserve any support, Palestine and the Palestinian people absolutely do, and the way they’ve been treated by Israel even before the current situation is terrible. The current situation is so much worse though, with Israel just going full mask off genocide now.
Even if the US isn’t going to get involved in that conflict directly the least we could have done is just not support Israel, don’t provide them with weapons, shut the fuck up when other countries start accusing them of war crimes and genocide. Instead we’re doing the exact opposite, sending weapons to Israel and using our international clout to shield them.
Critism of US policy towards Israel has been a growing with the left for years. Now, a major change in the facts on the ground have made it a much more salient issue.
The left, yes. Not these kids that are bandwagoning shit. Because I’ve yet to meet anyone one the left that would refuse to vote over single-issue drama.
I’m a Joe hater, and a voter of Joe Biden, and I agree with @mozz@mbin.grits.dev . I plan to vote for Joe Biden, but campaign against AIPAC-endorsed candidates in favor of democratic candidates willing to be critical about Israel without stepping over the line like “From the river to the sea” chant. Oct 7 happened, and abuses from Israel settlers happened.
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Nowhere in that list did I see record oil production. Strange.
Only half the country sees that as an accomplishment
The half whos never gonna vote for him because hes a democrat. Biden loses votes when he moves rightward and none of the right is coming to fill in the void.
Oh yes, not the smart half for sure. But that’s why it’s not listed.