That‘s a bit misleading… They said the Userbase isn’t yet high enough for them to put in effort to make it available. That might change.
Why they went out of their way to make the iPad App unavailable, that I do not know. They might have wanted a different user experience and decided to disable it till they have time to persue that idea 🤷♂️
Give it a year or two when the Vision userbase grew and we‘ll see what happens.
I don’t know any Netflix devs but I’ve spoken with devs of other apps that had to disallow iPad apps running in compatibility mode on macs because the iPad apps were very buggy as Mac apps. This isn’t true for all iPad apps but you have to make sure your app will run well before enabling compatibility mode.
I also follow a dev on mastodon (I think it’s the guy behind the Channels app) who made an interesting observation. He makes the case that it’s actually Apple TV apps that should run on AVP, not iPad apps.
Not even touch points, per se. The AVP uses eye tracking. Just look at what you want and pinch yo fingers together. I think you can pinch and hold too.
I understand that. My point is that “look and pinch” effectively maps perfectly without alteration to touching a point, or touching and dragging.
It’s not that you can’t also do a virtual remote to handle TV apps, but the interaction they intend is a lot closer to a tablet. Defaulting to TV would teach developers bad habits. You’d end up with more interactions more limited than they need to be.
Ahhh, gotcha. I was thinking the opposite. Since the remote basically has a swipe pad and that’s it, it felt like there was less needed but I think you’re right. You gotta be able to pinch and zoom photos and stuff and that only works if they’re duplicating a trackpad or mouse.
I’m not sure if they’ve mapped every multitouch gesture to the Vision Pro out of the box, but it’s something they can and should do in time. There’s a lot of potential there.
You could easily have some of the same gestures do double duty as remote inputs on TV interfaces, since it’s all context dependent on where your eyes are, and there aren’t that many to map. But swipe up down left right to navigate a TV interface would get old I think.
I do actually think they should (I understand developer relations/contract reasons they don’t) straight up give you emulators apps can’t distinguish from the TV/iPad/iPhone on both MacOS and Vision Pro, and take action against developers who try to artificially block you from using their apps on other devices. There are things that won’t work, but most will, and I think letting developers artificially segment it out when it’s all basically the same chip now is kind of bullshit.
That‘s a bit misleading… They said the Userbase isn’t yet high enough for them to put in effort to make it available. That might change.
Why they went out of their way to make the iPad App unavailable, that I do not know. They might have wanted a different user experience and decided to disable it till they have time to persue that idea 🤷♂️
Give it a year or two when the Vision userbase grew and we‘ll see what happens.
What a surprise, media posts an article with a misleading title to bait emotional clicks from both fans and haters.
I’m so fucking sick of modern “journalism”
@berkeleyblue
I don’t know any Netflix devs but I’ve spoken with devs of other apps that had to disallow iPad apps running in compatibility mode on macs because the iPad apps were very buggy as Mac apps. This isn’t true for all iPad apps but you have to make sure your app will run well before enabling compatibility mode.
I also follow a dev on mastodon (I think it’s the guy behind the Channels app) who made an interesting observation. He makes the case that it’s actually Apple TV apps that should run on AVP, not iPad apps.
There’s an argument users should be able to do either.
But Apple TV apps are made for a remote. The Vision Pro interaction will be closer to gestures and specific touch points
Not even touch points, per se. The AVP uses eye tracking. Just look at what you want and pinch yo fingers together. I think you can pinch and hold too.
I understand that. My point is that “look and pinch” effectively maps perfectly without alteration to touching a point, or touching and dragging.
It’s not that you can’t also do a virtual remote to handle TV apps, but the interaction they intend is a lot closer to a tablet. Defaulting to TV would teach developers bad habits. You’d end up with more interactions more limited than they need to be.
Ahhh, gotcha. I was thinking the opposite. Since the remote basically has a swipe pad and that’s it, it felt like there was less needed but I think you’re right. You gotta be able to pinch and zoom photos and stuff and that only works if they’re duplicating a trackpad or mouse.
PS. Your username is great.
I’m not sure if they’ve mapped every multitouch gesture to the Vision Pro out of the box, but it’s something they can and should do in time. There’s a lot of potential there.
You could easily have some of the same gestures do double duty as remote inputs on TV interfaces, since it’s all context dependent on where your eyes are, and there aren’t that many to map. But swipe up down left right to navigate a TV interface would get old I think.
I do actually think they should (I understand developer relations/contract reasons they don’t) straight up give you emulators apps can’t distinguish from the TV/iPad/iPhone on both MacOS and Vision Pro, and take action against developers who try to artificially block you from using their apps on other devices. There are things that won’t work, but most will, and I think letting developers artificially segment it out when it’s all basically the same chip now is kind of bullshit.
It is going to be a slow rollout. It might take years to build a substantial user base. Apple will need to bring the price down to iPhone territory.
Edit: if I was Netflix I would still put a small team on making a proper app. I believe apple will persist in this market until it works.