Neither Russia nor Ukraine have provided evidence for their accusations over the crash of a Russian military transport plane near Russia's borders with Ukraine.
Moscow accuses Kyiv of downing the Ilyushin Il-76 plane in Russia’s Belgorod region and killing 74 people on board, including 65 captured Ukrainian soldiers en route to be swapped for Russian PoWs. It has not presented evidence.
Ukraine has neither confirmed nor denied that it shot down the plane and has challenged Moscow’s account of who was on board and what happened.
And yet CNN already claims that only 5 bodies went to the morgue. Sounds like they want to get ahead of it and write a story saying there is no evidence before it’s been provided so they can move on.
And seriously, I need to go back and actually give you an honest explanation of how Reuters and Associated Press and WAPO and NYT and France24 and BBC and The Guardian are essentially part of the same entity
You keep saying they are all related, but the subject matter doesn’t support that argument, case in point being CNN report =/ Reuters or Euronews report. Both Reuters and Euronews explicitly stated that no proof was provided by either side about their statements.
I’m open to your explanation, but you need to base that explanation in facts, not just speculation or conjecture.
This wouldn’t be the first instance of Ukraine disregarding their own POWs as a liability, in turn they mistreat Russian POWs and use civilian cars and shit. They actually admit to doing all of it on Telegram and these big papers know that, they are sitting on the info until they can act shocked periodically at bad PR shit getting out like Zhorin throwing people into pits.
Can’t say how likely or unlikely that is, and I’m afraid not understanding the Cyrillic alphabet prevents me from verifying those claims. But it would not be the first time Ukraine engaged in the same questionable behavior that Russia does.
Though, judging this particular case based on previous acts without either side having any proof to their claims is also unreasonable.
In the meantime (and I do actually intend to go over this thoroughly when I am in the “talk to guy who thinks CNN is left, Fox News is right, and France24/BBC/Guardian/etcetera is neutral” mental mode or else I’m just gonna shitpost at ya) just use translation!
Well going back to my point of Reuters their title was Putin says Ukraine shot down plane, not clear if deliberately or in error.
With explicit mentions of:
And yet CNN already claims that only 5 bodies went to the morgue. Sounds like they want to get ahead of it and write a story saying there is no evidence before it’s been provided so they can move on.
And seriously, I need to go back and actually give you an honest explanation of how Reuters and Associated Press and WAPO and NYT and France24 and BBC and The Guardian are essentially part of the same entity
You keep saying they are all related, but the subject matter doesn’t support that argument, case in point being CNN report =/ Reuters or Euronews report. Both Reuters and Euronews explicitly stated that no proof was provided by either side about their statements.
I’m open to your explanation, but you need to base that explanation in facts, not just speculation or conjecture.
This wouldn’t be the first instance of Ukraine disregarding their own POWs as a liability, in turn they mistreat Russian POWs and use civilian cars and shit. They actually admit to doing all of it on Telegram and these big papers know that, they are sitting on the info until they can act shocked periodically at bad PR shit getting out like Zhorin throwing people into pits.
Can’t say how likely or unlikely that is, and I’m afraid not understanding the Cyrillic alphabet prevents me from verifying those claims. But it would not be the first time Ukraine engaged in the same questionable behavior that Russia does.
Though, judging this particular case based on previous acts without either side having any proof to their claims is also unreasonable.
In the meantime (and I do actually intend to go over this thoroughly when I am in the “talk to guy who thinks CNN is left, Fox News is right, and France24/BBC/Guardian/etcetera is neutral” mental mode or else I’m just gonna shitpost at ya) just use translation!