• kava@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    closest i’ve ever been to russia is reading crime and punishment

    you’ve been convinced war = good but it doesn’t have to be that way

      • kava@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        I’m an American citizen, not a Russian. Therefore I care about American policy because it’s the one I have a modicum of influence in.

        Russia invaded Ukraine - they are the aggressor. However, it doesn’t follow from that statement that we should send billions of dollars worth of killing machines to Ukraine.

        Our actions have a) funneled over $150 billion dollars worth of $$$ from public hands (our taxes) into the hands of wealthy private corporations. Go and look up how the stock price for Lockheed Martin reacted to the invasion in 2022.

        b) prolonged a war which will inevitably end with Russia taking territory. This has two consequences

        1. like Chomsky says we are “fighting to the last Ukrainian”. We are absolutely fucking the demographics of a country for the next century if not more. The rebuilding costs will be over 3x what we’ve spent so far - and ill eat my shoe if the benevolent Western countries are going to foot the bill.

        2. this prolonging has caused global economic mayhem and it looks like it’s going to cost the Dems the election - bringing us Trump and a further fall into fascism.

        We are sacrificing the world for $$$. Capitalism is killing itself. It’s as if we are trying to replicate the 20th century.

        • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          Hahahaha

          From your own arguments, we are actually sacrificing $$$ for the world, not the other way around. I’m happy for my tax dollars to pay to rein in the aggression of Russia and maintain the independence of Ukraine. Fuck Russia. Slava Ukraine. We should be sending them more.

          • kava@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            9 months ago

            so easy to beat the war drums when the hundreds of thousands of young men dying aren’t you, right?

            at this point i’m convinced you’re a bot because you have said nothing meaningful or original up to this point

            • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              9 months ago

              so easy to beat the war drums when the hundreds of thousands of young men dying aren’t you, right?

              Ask the citizens of Ukraine.

              • kava@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                9 months ago

                again - we are not helping ukraine out of the goodness of our hearts

                the only purpose is a) funnel as much money as possible into private hands and b) make Russia bleed for every inch of territory they are going to inevitably take

                i don’t care what ukrainians say. they’re under invasion, of course they’re going to want to fight the invaders. does that mean we need to pump money onto every single country that’s been subjected to injustice?

                artificially propping up Ukraine so they can get destroyed for a longer period of time is not good for Ukraine. the end result is going to be russia annexing eastern ukraine. regardless of how much $$$ we give our defense contractors. why should hundreds of thousands of additional young men die for nothing?

                it’s absurd we throw away so many lives for nothing. stop pretending like you give a shit about the people of ukraine. we are facilitating their destruction

                • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  the end result is going to be russia annexing eastern ukraine. regardless of how much $$$ we give our defense contractors

                  In your wet tankie dreams lol

                  • kava@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    you don’t understand the words you use. i realize now you’re probably a teenager, not a bot.