Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian warns Israel could suffer ‘huge earthquake’ if fighting continues

Iran has told Israel through the UN that it will intervene if the country’s operations against Hamas in Gaza continue, a report has claimed.

Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Meanwhile, Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Israel’s operations could cause fighting to expand to other areas of the Middle East which would cause Israel to suffer “a huge earthquake”, reported the Associated Press.

    • PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.worldEnglish
      814·
      1 year ago

      Iran does not pose a credible military threat to Israel. They only have a couple of options - terrorist attacks from their proxies, maybe a cross-border incursion from Lebanon that would be a slaughter and change the balance of power there, or an air strike. Israel is so amped up right now that they’d respond with airstrikes inside Iran, and US carrier groups are in the area with no misunderstanding as to what they signify.

      This is saber-rattling for theatrics.

      • dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4919·
        1 year ago

        Iran are not wrong though, Israel need to chill.

        It’s really annoying how the mainstream media is like yeah this is cool, when they’re commuting atrocities no better than Hamas committed.

        I don’t know what it is with Israel that makes the world walk on eggshells but they have committed horrific acts and they should be called out on it.

        Fucking monsters the Israeli government are.

            • aliteral@lemmy.worldEnglish
              31·
              1 year ago

              Hey man, you do know that Hamas has nothing to do with the left right? And yeah, fuck Hamas anyway, but you should not be equalizing leftism with terrorism support because, let me tell you, I have yet to meet one leftist that backs ups what Hamas did. The ones that “sound” lile they do, only are explaining that extremism is born through dispair, of which Palestinians have plenty of it after being ethnically clenaed for 70+ years. But that does not mean, in any way possible, that they not condemn Hamas actions. Quite the contrary, they condemn every terrorist action, Hamas or Israeli.

        • thrawn@lemmy.worldEnglish
          510·
          1 year ago

          They might not be wrong about Israel committing atrocities. They would be wrong to add to it by committing atrocities of their own. The article certainly doesn’t seem to indicate they’ll “intervene” in a benign manner, and their track record is as blemished or worse.

          This is doubly dumb if Israel is like they say. There is zero chance Israel would back down if Iran intervened; really, they’d probably have no issue extending the rampage to Iran as well. More people will die horribly.

          It’s not right to sit and watch everyone commit various crimes against humanity. But adding your own violence with absolutely no chance at preventing loss of life, as Iran is implying they will do here, is somehow worse than apathy.

          • Killing_Spark@feddit.deEnglish
            134·
            1 year ago

            I’m not saying I support Iran with their threats but I think I have a problem with the generality of what you said. The same could be used to say the west shouldn’t support Ukraine with weapons because then the war would be over sooner, preventing deaths and violence.

            • thrawn@lemmy.worldEnglish
              69·
              1 year ago

              Iran is an uninvolved third party poised to add to the bloodshed with no possible gain, unlike with Ukraine where lives in the future may be saved. I’m not saying there should be no third party interventions in general. Simply that Iran coming in to make things expressly worse— I think we can all see there will be absolutely nothing improved by their intervention— is of unparalleled uselessness and would result in pointless loss of life. If they could contribute, all power to them, but they cannot do anything but make it worse.

              • Killing_Spark@feddit.deEnglish
                62·
                1 year ago

                Again I am not in support of Iran taking action here, I disliked the general dismission of intervention in your first comment

                • thrawn@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  52·
                  1 year ago

                  I feel like even in that first comment alone I repeated that I’m against this specific case of intervention because it would be “committing atrocities of their own” despite “zero chance that Israel would back down,” and that adding “more violence with absolutely no chance of preventing loss of life”.

                  That’s three separate quotes from three separate paragraphs, very narrowly commenting only on Iran’s proposed intervention. I’m not sure how I could have made it more clear that I’m only against the pointless killing this specific intervention, the one indicated by the article would lead to? Like even now I don’t see how it could have been clarified, and I’m genuinely interested in knowing how. This thread isn’t even about intervention in general, just the exact instance I was commenting on.

                  Apologies if this sounds even the slightest bit hostile— I genuinely don’t mean it to have that tone, and I haven’t gotten into a single argument on Lemmy. I just cannot see how it wasn’t abundantly clear when I paid extra effort to comment very very very narrowly across three paragraphs in the first comment alone.

        • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
          714·
          1 year ago

          I’m happy to believe you, but do you have any sources besides för middleeasteye.net that lists the atrocities Israel’s done? I can find the atrocities Hamas has done everywhere, but the eye seems to be the only place I can find claims that Israel has done stuff that is wrong.

          • dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            174·
            1 year ago

            So you can check the United Nations for reputable repeats or condemnation of Israeli actions here is one suck link, but you can search more on the site. .

            You can Google Israel using white phosphorus and again find reputable sources.

            Also, listen to content from more liberal Israeli’s that are willing to call out their own government.

            Again, I want to be abundantly clear I am not defending Hamas, peering pointing out that Israel are just as bad if not worse.

            I’ve been very active this morning so stalk my profile to see all the posts I’ve been on and follow those sources and make up your own mind as we all should.

            Don’t just believe me. I, like everybody on Earth, has bias.

            • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
              51·
              1 year ago

              I did search white phosphorus and all I found was an article from human rights watch, and above that, and article from twb guardian refuting it. I am happy to believe that both Hamas and Israel are committing atrocities, but I would like an actual source so I can point to when arguing with a pro Israel family member.

              • dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                42·
                1 year ago

                There is going to be lots of contradictory news sources for the next few weeks. Once the dust settles we will get a fuller picture of what have gone on.

                That said you can find videos from Gaza and photos showing what appears to be white phosphorus being used.

                The guardian article I saw said that Israel denies using it, which isn’t so much the guardian saying it didn’t happen.

                Not that it matters but it’s a fact they used it in 2009 and so why wouldn’t they use it now? Again to be 100 we have to wait a little longer.

                Things we do know though is they bombed Gaza and turned of the power so the hospitals couldn’t even help and there are dead Palestinian children thanks to Israeli retaliation.

                Which is terrible, particularly since they condemned Hamas for killing Israeli children.

                All I want is that Israel to be called out on their horrific acts just the same as we do for any other group, without being called an anti-Semite. Just because they had one of the best worlds worst things happen to them in WWII doesn’t mean they’re above criticism and if anything you would think they of all people would not perpetuate the same level of hatred for a group of people.

              • aliteral@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Believe, at most you’re gonna get frustrated and maybe, implicitly called anti-semite. I myself i’m of jewish heritage, and hate that people conflate israeli critiscism with antisemitism.

      • Chariotwheel@kbin.social
        81·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, the only thing Israel is concerned about is the international reputation. They know they can’t go full ham, even now every western government in support is dropping the “and I am SURE Israel will keep to international law” as a hint and reminder that there is a limit somewhere.

        • prole@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          21·
          1 year ago

          Lol… The UN has been trying to chastise Israel for decades now for literally breaking international law, and the US shuts it down with their veto power. They’ve already been doing it for decades.

        • PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          1 year ago

          Probably not all that much, to be honest. Look at India and Pakistan. That would be the closest example here.

          Nuclear weapons’ most important role today is preventing an all out invasion of the country. Israel is already a nuclear power. They could launch a nuclear attack on Iran at any time. They don’t, for obvious reasons. Russia could launch a nuclear attack on Ukraine. They don’t, for equally obvious reasons.

          I started my career in Soviet analysis, and ended up knowing quite a bit about the role of nuclear weapons in foreign and military policies. In the early days (50s), we thought it would be possible to fight and win a nuclear war. I don’t think anyone thinks that anymore.

          There is no scenario which includes Russia using a nuclear weapon against Ukraine that does not end with the end of the Putin government if not the end of Russia as we know it. It wouldn’t even need to be a global nuclear war for that to happen.

          The same holds true for India and Pakistan, which like I said is the best analogy. Implacable enemies with religious and territorial disputes, screwed over by colonialism, and ongoing low level violence.

          Israel-Iran is the same, only more so. The I-P conflict doesn’t have the US as an unquestioning ally, unlike Israel. I-P have about 150 weapons each. Israel is estimated to have 100. Iran has 0, and even if and when they start production, they’ll have 5-10. And then you have to factor in the delivery of the weapon, which would be the opposition between the Iranian and Israeli (and US) air forces, with predictable results.

          • Spzi@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Thanks for your insights! I think I learned one or two things here. Please comment more on topics like these, if you like.

            India and Pakistan, which like I said is the best analogy. Implacable enemies with religious and territorial disputes, screwed over by colonialism, and ongoing low level violence.

            Sounds good indeed. I spotted another parallel between the two conflicts: Both can use the same abbreviation. At first I was confused when you started talking about “The I-P conflict”.

  • SinningStromgald@lemmy.worldEnglish
    552·
    1 year ago

    So this could widen to Israel/USA/UN(?) vs Iran/Syria/Lebanon(Hezbollah)/Gaza(Hamas) which would essentially be The War on Terror II. Which means another ~20yrs in the Middle East. Oh goody.

    • agent_flounder@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      1 year ago

      Just what the world needs. I am getting some faint WWI vibes too. Maybe I am just being paranoid. But it seems like this could expand to more middle eastern countries than you’ve listed, should things go horribly wrong. I could also see this being turned into another proxy war—revenge by Russia for Western support for Ukraine.

      • Mossy Feathers (They/Them)@pawb.socialEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I’m worried it might go further than that and devolve into a full-blown WWIII. I know that may seem far-fetched, especially since Israel isn’t technically part of NATO, however the US is still a major Israeli ally. If Iran gets involved, it’ll likely pull the US into the fight (though probably not with troops on the ground initially). If the US gets involved, Russia might get involved to keep the US busy and away from Ukraine. If Iran starts to become successful with Russian backing, the US might start putting troops on the ground to defend Israel, especially since if Israel collapses then Hamas will almost certainly commit genocide against Jewish Israelis. This would pull attention away from Taiwan, which means China may be tempted to seize the chance and invade while the US is getting spread thin. Meanwhile, Russia would likely seize the opportunity to make a hard push against Ukraine while the US is busy elsewhere. I’m not sure what India would do in this situation. I’m guessing that if China invaded Taiwan, then they might try to take the chance and fortify their borders while China’s busy and maybe back up Taiwan, if for any reason just to limit China’s global power; however I’m not really familiar with India’s diplomatic ties.

        I hope I’m wrong, I’m probably wrong, but there’s a lot of tension in the world right now with Russia and China both trying to expand into other territories, and I honestly feel like we aren’t that far off a full-blown, WWI-style descent into another world war. I wouldn’t be surprised if Russia in particular is trying to push Iran into a war with Israel just so that the US quits funding Ukraine’s defense.

      • ParsnipWitch@feddit.deEnglish
        02·
        1 year ago

        I do not think you are paranoid. Maybe not straight out world war, but more war in the Middle East and Northern Africa. Egypt for example is suspiciously silent in the matter, although they are already trying to negotiate with Israel to curb the influx of Palestinian refugees. They sit straight at the border and their help for people in Gaza is still just discussed. I am sure they know other countries are watching their decisions on this.

        Some people do not want to accept it but this is very much a war between religions as well. For many Muslims there is only one correct answer: Israel has to go. It’s part of their identity to want the area to be a Muslim country. This also has an effect on countries everywhere. For example in Germany there is a huge drive to stand behind Israel in this matter. At the same time, Germany has a big Muslim immigrant population.

      • Murvel@lemm.eeEnglish
        54·
        1 year ago

        And the UN codemn the Hamas terrorist attacks, so what’s your point? And what occupation?

  • TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    313·
    1 year ago

    And this can easily lead to more wars in the Middle East. Once more, innocent will die, and soldiers will not return home because stupid bloodlusting leaders of Israel, Iran, and Hamas just can’t get enough blood.

  • avater@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3316·
    1 year ago

    Oh the rogue nation wants to play along? Isn’t supporting the Russians against my country enough?

    • Squizzy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1214·
      1 year ago

      The Palestinians are in the same position as Ukraine, if not further down. Ukraine has been lucky to have Western support, the other path was to end up like Palestine.

  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.eeEnglish
    2914·
    1 year ago

    As if Iran’s fingers weren’t in the fucking pot from the start of this shit show. Bitch we’ve got the receipts that you all but handed Hamas the plans for their little murder rape and pillaging expedition.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

    Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

    Mr Amirabdollahian said that he would be contacting UN officials in the region as “there is still an opportunity to work on an initiative (to end the war) but it might be too late tomorrow.”

    More than 2,000 people have been killed in Hamas-controlled Gaza since Israel launched retaliatory airstrikes, the Palestinian health ministry said on Saturday.

    Following the Hamas attacks, Israel announced a “complete siege” on the enclave and tens of thousands have now left their homes in Gaza to get away from the combat zone.

    And on Saturday Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu told troops in southern Israel that “The next stage is coming”

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