Selfish reasons like wanting to be treated like human beings politically? Get married? Adopt kids? Get wedding cakes at bakeries without being shut out? Those kind of selfish reasons?
Your anecdote isn’t very relevant here since you aren’t gay. All you’re saying is that you can be liberal without being gay or having other issues directly affect you.
What they are asking is, if those issues do affect them, is that the reason they are liberal? An obvious answer is, if it matters to them more than other things then yes. I imagine personal identity and personal freedom matter very much for most people, but it may not be the highest on the list.
Unsurprisingly, things aren’t black and white.
It’s certainly weird to see people championing for things that will actively hurt them though. Like black people trying to join the KKK.
I’m trying to get you to see that the nature of the reasons are not what the selfishness was in reference to but rather their scope of caring. A hard right republican woman can think that she deserves to have an abortion herself but if she doesn’t care if that extends to others then she is selfish. If the percentage that mellow was talking about are only liberal because the issues listed impact them then that does kinda seem selfish. It is not a commentary at all about the rightness or wrongness of those issues.
Then you should she stated your case and avoided trying to be clever by asking the same question twice in some bizarre effort at a philosophical take, to what…make yourself appear smarter? To a question you’ve already answered for yourself? Ridiculous.
Selfish reasons like wanting to be treated like human beings politically? Get married? Adopt kids? Get wedding cakes at bakeries without being shut out? Those kind of selfish reasons?
Oh, sorry. I didn’t mean selfish in a negative way. Is there a better word?
Selfish had a negative connotation… But voting in your self interest is likely what you meant and shouldn’t have any such connotation.
Magnanimous maybe?
Are they only liberal because of the issues that directly impact them?
I’m not gay.
I’m not buying wedding cakes.
I’m not adopting.
CIS WASPs already own politics.
Yet here I am, liberal.
It is possible to care about other people and their problems without those problems being yours as well.
Of course, but are they only liberal because of the issues that directly impact them?
If you don’t care for my personal anecdote, why did you ask again as if I could answer differently? Go ask them yourself.
Your anecdote isn’t very relevant here since you aren’t gay. All you’re saying is that you can be liberal without being gay or having other issues directly affect you.
What they are asking is, if those issues do affect them, is that the reason they are liberal? An obvious answer is, if it matters to them more than other things then yes. I imagine personal identity and personal freedom matter very much for most people, but it may not be the highest on the list.
Unsurprisingly, things aren’t black and white.
It’s certainly weird to see people championing for things that will actively hurt them though. Like black people trying to join the KKK.
I’m trying to get you to see that the nature of the reasons are not what the selfishness was in reference to but rather their scope of caring. A hard right republican woman can think that she deserves to have an abortion herself but if she doesn’t care if that extends to others then she is selfish. If the percentage that mellow was talking about are only liberal because the issues listed impact them then that does kinda seem selfish. It is not a commentary at all about the rightness or wrongness of those issues.
Trying to get me to see…?
Then you should she stated your case and avoided trying to be clever by asking the same question twice in some bizarre effort at a philosophical take, to what…make yourself appear smarter? To a question you’ve already answered for yourself? Ridiculous.
Or you could have answered the question I asked instead of offering an irrelevant personal anecdote.
Well, keep talking to yourself, bro. Your answers are the only ones you want to hear.