Mam, I wish geopolitics was as simple as you “genocide joe” bros seem to think it is.
This is actually huge and we should be celebrating it as a win. We’ll that’s if you actually care about the people of Gaza and don’t just want to use them as an excuse to attack Biden.
So you think if Biden was so inclined to he could just say “no more support for Israel” and everyone would just happily go along with it because he’s president and everyone has to do what he says?
Or would an administration with no majority in either the senate or the house maybe have trouble going against decades of policy and doctrine, to abandon its closest ally in an incredibly unstable and important region and put at risk American political and corporate interests in the area?
So you think if Biden was so inclined to he could just say “no more support for Israel” and everyone would just happily go along with it because he’s president and everyone has to do what he says?
YES
It should never be difficult to do the right thing.
Not just Ukrainians. Uyghurs, Syrians, Kurds, Georgians, Quirimli, Chechens… the list goes fucking on.
The most vile shit they introduced into discourse around Gaza is the notion that genocide is a competition. “More people dead in n days in Gaza than in n months in Ukraine” is a statement that achieves only two goals: devalue human suffering and reveal the messenger to be a morally bankrupt psychopath.
A win that Israel will continue to use US weapons against Palestine while we spend 2 months building a dock in order to deliver aid to people that are starving now?
It seems pretty disgusting of you to call this a ‘win’ and try to deflect criticism against those supporting genocide.
Well they are already airdropping food into Gaza which is the only other realistic option. So getting aid into gaza in 2 months IS a win since if they didn’t then NO aid would get into Gaza.
And you would understand this if you actually gave a shit about these people instead of just wanting to use them to justify you political beliefs.
You’re the one accosting anyone who points out that Biden could end a lot of the suffering if he’d just stop supplying all the weaponry that’s being used on these people. Concern trolling doesn’t really work when you’re the guy openly supporting genocide.
I’m “accosting” you because you’re not arguing in good faith, either because you’re a troll or you’re actually left wing but one of the smug ones that only cares about ideological purity tests that ignore reality.
Like I get in your incredibly simplistic view of how things work Biden is a mustache twirling villains that gets glee from knowing destinations are dying. And if he wanted to he could snap his fingers, stop weapons sales tomorrow and the genocide would be over in a week, right.
When the reality is that he is doing what he can to help the situation, but doesn’t have control of either the senate or the house and is arguing with republicans over aid to Ukraine which they tried to tie to aid to Israel. And plus he will have pressure from donors and other important people in the arms industry, during what may be the most important election in US history. So is almost certainly having to do the unthinkable calculus of if he did spend all his political capital on stopping arms sales to Israel, is that worth harming his chances at reelection, seeing as trump will u doubtsbly cause more harm both domestically and in Gaza. And then even if he did stop arms sales, Israel has both huge stockpiles of weapons and its own military production capacity, as well as the fact they’re currently already committed to ground offensives, which don’t rely much on US supplies, so the genocide wouldn’t stop.
So Biden can either do what he can to get aid into gaza or he can spend all his political capital to stop weapons shipments to isreal, burning US foreign policy in the region, passing of donors and key political figures in a time when he desperately needs then, for no real gain other than a PR victory for the sake of people who will immediately find some new way to demonise him instead.
This diatribe pretty much boils down to you claiming that polling numbers and donors are more important than the lives of those people being slaughtered over there, going as far as to say stopping weapons shipments is “no real gain” because pandering to donors is more important.
I’m sure the men, women, and children who will be vaporized into red mist by the next US weapons shipment would disagree that there’s “no real gain” to stopping them. You’re a disgusting individual.
Yeah im sure Genocide Joe has perfectly good intentions when he says he plans build a port in a city he directly helped to ethnically cleanse, that just so happens to be within a few nautical miles of two massive oil wells recently discovered within Gaza’s territorial waters, which have already been sold off to oil companies.
This is the same country that managed to kill people whilst dropping out of date, non-halal, food onto civilians.
Why are you so desperate to avoid seeing him for what he is? Are you feeling guilty for the horrors you’ve seen whilst still convincing yourself America is the good guy?
I mean for one I’m not taking someone seriously that unironicslly says “genocide Joe”
Also you might wanna learn the definition of “directly” because you’re not using it right.
Also do you have any sources for any of the stuff you just claimed because I can’t find info on it at all.
Like it’s so obvious you don’t actually give a shit about this people and it’s just an excuse for you to say “but Biden bad” like the good little useful idiot you are.
It doesn’t matter if he’s building infrastructure to get needed aide onto gaza, or directly airdropping food into the city. You people will always try and find some mental gymnastics way to make it into Biden supporting genocide.
Citation needed? Motherfucker was on record being so willing to kill civilians that previous Israeli presidents thought he was too extreme
He directly helped by directly sending Israel billions in arms funding for years leading up to, and after, Israels most recent invasion and genocide of Gaza. He could’ve pressured Israel to back down at any moment but instead parroted Israeli propaganda such as “mass rapes”, “beheaded babies”, and the atrocious claims of UNRWA involvement with Hamas, which has in turn lead to them losing hundreds of millions in funding.
If you think any of that is “claptrap” (OK Boomer) consider going back to reddit where you won’t get people challenging your genocide apologism.
Muslims are allowed to eat haram if they would otherwise starve, this kind of nitpicking is very elucidatory. Like, would you rather less food be delivered, or delivered with more delay, just to ensure it sticks to rules which are not even applicable to this scenario?
That’s true, as well as you can also eat out-of-date food if the alternative is starvation, but it seems fitting that the US is only able to scrounge 38,000 meals (enough for 1.7% of the total population of Gaza to have one meal) while it’s gleefully sending billions in military aid to Israel.
Mam, I wish geopolitics was as simple as you “genocide joe” bros seem to think it is.
This is actually huge and we should be celebrating it as a win. We’ll that’s if you actually care about the people of Gaza and don’t just want to use them as an excuse to attack Biden.
the “genocide joe” people are pretty much the same as the people attacking dr. fauci for pushing vaccines, tbh
Geopolitics isn’t simple. Being against genocides is simple.
America is trying to fix the problem it helped create.
So you think if Biden was so inclined to he could just say “no more support for Israel” and everyone would just happily go along with it because he’s president and everyone has to do what he says?
Or would an administration with no majority in either the senate or the house maybe have trouble going against decades of policy and doctrine, to abandon its closest ally in an incredibly unstable and important region and put at risk American political and corporate interests in the area?
YES
It should never be difficult to do the right thing.
You are right, but also very naive.
What would Jesus do? Or Martin Luther King? Or Ghandi? Or Nelson Mandela?
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Not just Ukrainians. Uyghurs, Syrians, Kurds, Georgians, Quirimli, Chechens… the list goes fucking on.
The most vile shit they introduced into discourse around Gaza is the notion that genocide is a competition. “More people dead in n days in Gaza than in n months in Ukraine” is a statement that achieves only two goals: devalue human suffering and reveal the messenger to be a morally bankrupt psychopath.
A win that Israel will continue to use US weapons against Palestine while we spend 2 months building a dock in order to deliver aid to people that are starving now?
It seems pretty disgusting of you to call this a ‘win’ and try to deflect criticism against those supporting genocide.
Well they are already airdropping food into Gaza which is the only other realistic option. So getting aid into gaza in 2 months IS a win since if they didn’t then NO aid would get into Gaza.
And you would understand this if you actually gave a shit about these people instead of just wanting to use them to justify you political beliefs.
You’re the one accosting anyone who points out that Biden could end a lot of the suffering if he’d just stop supplying all the weaponry that’s being used on these people. Concern trolling doesn’t really work when you’re the guy openly supporting genocide.
I’m “accosting” you because you’re not arguing in good faith, either because you’re a troll or you’re actually left wing but one of the smug ones that only cares about ideological purity tests that ignore reality.
Like I get in your incredibly simplistic view of how things work Biden is a mustache twirling villains that gets glee from knowing destinations are dying. And if he wanted to he could snap his fingers, stop weapons sales tomorrow and the genocide would be over in a week, right.
When the reality is that he is doing what he can to help the situation, but doesn’t have control of either the senate or the house and is arguing with republicans over aid to Ukraine which they tried to tie to aid to Israel. And plus he will have pressure from donors and other important people in the arms industry, during what may be the most important election in US history. So is almost certainly having to do the unthinkable calculus of if he did spend all his political capital on stopping arms sales to Israel, is that worth harming his chances at reelection, seeing as trump will u doubtsbly cause more harm both domestically and in Gaza. And then even if he did stop arms sales, Israel has both huge stockpiles of weapons and its own military production capacity, as well as the fact they’re currently already committed to ground offensives, which don’t rely much on US supplies, so the genocide wouldn’t stop.
So Biden can either do what he can to get aid into gaza or he can spend all his political capital to stop weapons shipments to isreal, burning US foreign policy in the region, passing of donors and key political figures in a time when he desperately needs then, for no real gain other than a PR victory for the sake of people who will immediately find some new way to demonise him instead.
This diatribe pretty much boils down to you claiming that polling numbers and donors are more important than the lives of those people being slaughtered over there, going as far as to say stopping weapons shipments is “no real gain” because pandering to donors is more important.
I’m sure the men, women, and children who will be vaporized into red mist by the next US weapons shipment would disagree that there’s “no real gain” to stopping them. You’re a disgusting individual.
Ah okay, so you are just a troll.
I’m sorry I wasted my time on you as if you were a reasonable person.
Yeah im sure Genocide Joe has perfectly good intentions when he says he plans build a port in a city he directly helped to ethnically cleanse, that just so happens to be within a few nautical miles of two massive oil wells recently discovered within Gaza’s territorial waters, which have already been sold off to oil companies.
This is the same country that managed to kill people whilst dropping out of date, non-halal, food onto civilians.
Why are you so desperate to avoid seeing him for what he is? Are you feeling guilty for the horrors you’ve seen whilst still convincing yourself America is the good guy?
I mean for one I’m not taking someone seriously that unironicslly says “genocide Joe”
Also you might wanna learn the definition of “directly” because you’re not using it right.
Also do you have any sources for any of the stuff you just claimed because I can’t find info on it at all.
Like it’s so obvious you don’t actually give a shit about this people and it’s just an excuse for you to say “but Biden bad” like the good little useful idiot you are.
It doesn’t matter if he’s building infrastructure to get needed aide onto gaza, or directly airdropping food into the city. You people will always try and find some mental gymnastics way to make it into Biden supporting genocide.
citation needed. do you realise how silly you sound with this claptrap?
Citation needed? Motherfucker was on record being so willing to kill civilians that previous Israeli presidents thought he was too extreme
He directly helped by directly sending Israel billions in arms funding for years leading up to, and after, Israels most recent invasion and genocide of Gaza. He could’ve pressured Israel to back down at any moment but instead parroted Israeli propaganda such as “mass rapes”, “beheaded babies”, and the atrocious claims of UNRWA involvement with Hamas, which has in turn lead to them losing hundreds of millions in funding.
If you think any of that is “claptrap” (OK Boomer) consider going back to reddit where you won’t get people challenging your genocide apologism.
Muslims are allowed to eat haram if they would otherwise starve, this kind of nitpicking is very elucidatory. Like, would you rather less food be delivered, or delivered with more delay, just to ensure it sticks to rules which are not even applicable to this scenario?
That’s true, as well as you can also eat out-of-date food if the alternative is starvation, but it seems fitting that the US is only able to scrounge 38,000 meals (enough for 1.7% of the total population of Gaza to have one meal) while it’s gleefully sending billions in military aid to Israel.
Except out of date food carries a risk, and non-halal does not.