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  • Look at how many Palestinians have been killed vs Israelis. Just look at the numbers. What kind of psychopath is willing to kill even more people who have been being killed and oppressed for almost a century?

    If this is a justification you accept for this level of violence from Isreal, then you can’t argue against anything Hamas has done without being a hypocrite.

    And on a purely emotionless evaluation of the numbers, this kind of response from Isreal hasn’t worked for 80 years, but they keep killing innocent people. Maybe it’s time to try something else. Unless of course that’s not actually the reason.



  • I have sympathy for the Palestinian and Israeli civilians that are being murdered by both sides. Since 2008, Israel has killed significantly more Palestinians than vice versa https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties, 6,000 Palestinian deaths to 300 Israeli deaths.

    It’s the “deserve” part of your comment that I’m having trouble with reconciling when the amount of deaths and violent oppression has been so unbalanced against Palestinians. Yeah, Hamas needs to face consequences, but that’s not really what’s happening or what’s going to be happening. It’s going to be civilians that will suffer the most and Hamas will be fine when it’s all done.

    It’s not hard to see, as horrible as Hamas is, how they can get recruits and support for their regime and how this escalated to this point. I don’t support what happened in any way, but I can see how things lead up to this.

    And I’ve seen people say that Hamas fucked it up for Palestinians because now they lost the sympathy. Which is hard to not see as flawed when the sympathy hasn’t helped Palestinians for over half a century of violent oppression.