No one can change everything but everyone can change something.

Talk and gasp befriend those with whom we disagree.

The fact that not one comment thus far has grappled with “we might just not be as popular as the republicans” is kind of telling.

We either write of slightly more than half the country or figure out a way to win them over.

(Admittedly, there’s a slim chance where we rack up very specific sets of votes but I haven’t seen anything to make that a reasonable bet.)

Well, I for one, make it rule to always trust someone whose sources are “trust me bro” !

Why do you think it’s moderation?

And why on Earth would you think Lemmy doesn’t skew young?

I don’t think it’s moderation. I think people are genuinely less capable these days at processing news with which they disagree.

That and I think Lemmy skews young, I bet a lot of folks here don’t know anyone socially who would vote for trump.

Stop thinking with your feelings and how you wish things were Lemmy.

That’s kinda how things work here/online. Did you not notice how every poll with trump up was downvoted to oblivion?

CBC/BBC/Al Jazeera, checking the Economist for my minute by minute bellweather county level fun.

Harris: Please no one else call them garbage, please God don’t let anyone else call them garbage.

Ha, never heard or thought of trans Rowling but if I knew Harry Potter better I’d be damned tempted.

Except for example, of the quarter of Latinos who had supported trump last election but maybe this time were wavering, the sitting president just called them garbage. Probably not ideal for someone considering voting for your party.

But he is also not being helpful.

Ha, right? I feel bad for Harris, she gets unfairly saddled with all of Biden’s baggage from both the Left and the Right and as VP can’t really do much about it.

Brutal position to be in.

I don’t think it has to be a part of their identity. I don’t love the last party I just voted for. But if one of the parties vying for my vote calls supporters of that party garbage, I’m less inclined to listen to them.

Someone fed up with maga knows probably has a lot of trump supporting friends, family, church community etc whom they probably don’t appreciate being called garbage.

Totally reasonable.

And sometimes (often, if I’m being honest) I find myself getting tired of shitty people being able to do and say shitty things and somehow it’s rude to call it out.

Fully agree. It’s goddamn exhausting trying to be the good guys. Feels.like the other side gets to cheat, like the villains throwing civilians in harms way so the heroes have to save them etc.

But the older I get and the more concerned about the world we’re leaving for my friends’ kids, the more I care about winning elections instead of feeling smugly superior. (I said, while being smugly superior at people on my side whom I feel are being childish and/or counter-productive.)

Are you maybe responding to a different comment? Or who is the they with the pithy sentence?

We won 2018, 2020, 2022 mostly on the highground.

Pretty decent (couldn’t resist) track record.

Jesus. Out curiosity, what percentage of his supporters would you feel comfortable calling nazis?

I think you’re maybe misreading the point? Calling trump supporters garbage alienates those people who are in the middle (who clearly exist as evidenced by the polling swings over the last few months.)

I’d rather we do whatever to win every possible vote instead of pointlessly/counter-productively namecalling from the moral highground but maybe that’s just me.

I love there were 2 sentences respond ling to the point and then a diatribe about the other side is evil.

I’m not arguing the merits of maga. What I’m saying is pretty simple, if you were on the fence or say, one of the (I think it’s quarter-ish?) of Latinos supporting trump who was maybe repelled by that comedian, Biden just went and called you the same damn thing. And he’s the president, not a warm up act amidst a dozen or whatever speakers.