A ghoul isn’t “an attractive and intelligent person” you absolute pumpkin.

That’s not how the world works in the year 2023. Isolationism just isn’t a conceivable possibility. All countries are interconnected, and what’s happening in one country influences what’s happening in other countries in major ways.

No worries, that’s not what makes someone a tankie

I don’t call someone a tankie based on where they post, but in what they post. If you don’t want to be called a tankie, then don’t post tankie shit.

Lol okay, sure, yeah. Only the capitalist class. Got it.

As opposed to the kind of communism where you ask nicely for revolution? Have you actually read any Marx? I guarantee he was not a pacifist.

You deliberately misquoted me by cutting off the end of that sentence so you could have a nice soft strawman to swing at. The full sentence said

that try to impose communism through the use of force to repress dissent.

Forceful revolution by the workers against the capitalist class is a completely different matter from forceful repression of dissent by the state against students and professors.

You’re spun around, flipped upside-down, and confused as can be.

Tankie is a term that specifically refers to one particular kind of communism; namely, the kind that supports authoritarian regimes that try to impose communism through the use of force to repress dissent.

You can be a communist and not be a tankie. You cannot be against progress and be a progressive.

You think that China does not extract any economic value out of Tibet? That’s pure naivete.

The victorious imperialists ALWAYS claim that their subjugation of another is to the benefit of that other nations. Always.

When people say “anti-woke”, they actually mean that they are anti-doing anything about the awareness of systemic inequality that wokeness indicates. By definition, someone who is against change/progress is a conservative, so when someone says they are anti-woke, they are by definition expressing a conservative stance. That is, wanting to do something about systemic inequality is synonymous with having a progressive stance on systemic inequality.

Being a tankie, on the other hand, is not synonymous with being a comunist. Tankies are just one form of communist (militant).

Yes yes yes, China freed and liberated Tibet by taking it over. Of course. Nothing imperialist about that.

Just like the US has been liberating and freeing all those people in the middle east.

Let’s start with Tibet.

Being anti-tankie does not make you anti-communist.

Modern day China is both capitalist and emperialist and has a disregard for basic human rights. It is not in any way shape or form a communist state. Oh, and it actively tries to censor and erase the fact that it ran down its own citizens with tanks.

A tankie is someone who blindly supports authoritarian regimes simply because they’re anti-west

You cannot acknowledge anything even slightly negative that China has ever done without being jumped all over

By “being slightly critical” they mean even slightly implying that China is not in every way a completely perfect utopian paradise incapable of doing wrong.

I’m a socialist but not a tankie. Criticizing tankies!= criticizing socialists

I have and I think that there is validity to the propoganda model.

But the propoganda model does not say that all reporting by Western media is false, only that Western media has a hidden bias. But while Western media has an underlying bias to shape a narrative that fits the interests of the wealthy, Chinese state media has an overt and explicit bias to push the narrative in a direction that fits the interests of the state.

So why would I be more skeptical of western reporting on the incident?

There were some Western news outlets that lied about the events and propagated false information, and there were some that that did not.

The fact that Western media outlets cannot be blindly trusted does not mean that the Chinese state controlled media can. The Chinese state has a lot more incentive to lie about the events than independent news orgs do.

You’re right, there isn’t a single Western country that has a freer press than China. In fact, China may be the world’s last bastion of open information and free speech.