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  • The animal abuse alleged at the time was that there was supposedly no healthy vegan cat food.

    While the section of the rules was the same (violent content), animal abuse was a separate sentence, not the one about visual depictions:

    No visual content depicting executions, murder, suicide, dismemberment, visible innards, excessive gore, or charred bodies. No content depicting, promoting or enabling animal abuse. No erotic or otherwise suggestive media or text content featuring depictions of rape, sexual assault, or non-consensual violence. All other violent content should be tagged NSFW.

    This is the exact same paragraph we have today and we had before these changes.

    If there was no healthy vegan cat food then this would be considered content enabling animal abuse.


  • The ToS had no rules on misinformation at the time.

    it still had rules about animal abuse, which this misinformation, had it actually been misinformation, would have lead to. while the removal reason could have been more clear, the justification was still covered by our ToS.

    new rules created to back their talking points

    the additional rules provided more clarification on what we intend to achieve with them, but they would not be required. based on what we know today the removal was neither justified by the original ToS nor by the updated ones.




  • we do not consider feeding a cat vegan food as animal abuse, provided there are no health issues arising from this.

    most of the research i’ve looked at seems to point out that there are various pitfalls, e.g. just feeding a cat vegetables will result in malnutrition. having synthetic additives for this can be one way to address that problem. just because something is sold as vegan cat food that doesn’t necessarily imply that it’s healthy for the cat, as some of the articles were pointing out that some of the cheaper ones were lacking the right ingredients.

    as an example, “my cat now only gets potatoes and apples and nothing else” would be considered animal abuse.

    additionally, if moderators were to remove arguments pointing out the risks of e.g. missing nutrients in a civil discussion and leaving the other side that just argues “vegan cat food works” without any arguments as is then we would also consider this animal abuse.

    in this specific incident the conversation was certainly not civil, which is unfortunate, as this situation would likely have gone a very different way if it was.















  • @PugJesus@lemmy.world, you might have been posting only for LW users for a while :-/

    this is unfortunately correct for the time being.

    while we still have aggressive rate limits in place to limit federation impact from kbin bugs, which started with the measures that @sunaurus@lemm.ee mentioned, this wouldn’t impact activities coming from lemmy.world towards kbin.social.

    while kbin.social used to break down every now and then based on what i saw people comment, service was typically restored within a short period of time. more recently however, any time i’ve looked at kbin.social in the past couple weeks, it’s only been showing an error page. i suspect it may have been unavailable the entire time, not just at the times i looked at it. looking at our federation stats, the last successfully sent activity from lemmy.world to kbin.social was dated 2024-06-18 00:12:25 UTC, although the actual send date may have been later. successful is also not necessarily guaranteed, as some error codes might be misinterpreted as success due to how servers can be set up and how response status codes are interpreted on the sending side.

    if activities sent from lemmy.world don’t reach kbin.social then the posts and comments won’t be relayed to other instances. this is generally an issue in activitypub when instances are down, as such “orphaned” (at the time) communities effectively become local-only communities, isolated islands on all instances that already know about them.

    at this point, the last time we’ve received an activity submission (federation traffic) from kbin.social as on 18th of June, so it seems like it was working for some time on that day and has been broken since.

    at the start of this month, @ernest@kbin.social (kbin.social owner, main kbin dev) said that he was going to hand over management of kbin.social to someone else, as he’s currently unable to take care of it. presumably this hasn’t happened yet.