I dunno but I always get the impression that these fucking people that are too cool for school and need to loudly tell everyone how little they care about downvotes every chance they get, are probably also the people that go around using downvotes in bad faith and making the platform a little less welcoming for everyone.

My advice would probably be to just stay away from instances that are populated with the kind of people that use downvotes as a ‘disagree’ button or panic button to make themselves feel better when reading something they don’t understand. Those were always the worst people on Reddit that dragged the experience down for everyone. And it sucks that they’re all here too. And in a smaller pond, they’re going to be making a bigger splash.

I’d find a nice instance and / or communities to spend 90% of my time in and only actually go to places like Ask Lemmy in world when you actually feel like dealing with smart alecs and neckbeards.

Edit: and downvoting people for talking about downvotes isn’t actually funny, it’s just proof that you use downvotes for the wrong reasons. For the meme and ‘disagree’ button.

I think I may have come down with a mild (that hopefully stays mild) case of covid. And it pisses me off because I’ve got this far without getting it. Apparently it’s doing the rounds in my country and while I can vaguely understand not wanting to shut everything down again and making everyone bankrupt again, they haven’t even bothered with precautions this time or making supermarkets follow certain protocols. So it seems like the fucking anti-vaxx, anti-lockdown, head in the sand idiots have won here.

Sorry for offloading this, just saying that I’m probably going to be even more delayed at checking out PieFed now in the next couple of days. Feeling pretty woozy and lacking in the energy to much else other than scroll.

I’m definitely going to give PieFed a proper go, I’ve even made an account there already. There’s just a couple of things I’m still doing and seeing here.

The web UI on mobile really isn’t that bad, even with the full card view, unlike I thought it would be. I do have an odd issue though where on first load, the page is darker than it should be and text and pictures are surrounded by a white box. And seemingly if I switch to another app and back to Firefox again causing it to reload, it loads correctly.

I’ll send a screenshot from PieFed maybe in a couple of hours or my tomorrow. Been trying to upload an image here in this reply for the last who knows how long but there seem to be server issues.

Very nice! I actually just checked it out in Firefox Android and it’s actually not that bad, not at all what I was picturing in terms of large images taking up more than the screen lol. It does have a couple of graphical oddities that go away with a refresh but I’ll maybe reply to that email that I got when I subscribed with screenshots, like it asked. Later when I’m doing stuff at my desk.

So if it takes a while for the app or I’m not satisfied or whatever, it wouldn’t be too painful for me to just use Firefox until something better comes along.

Saying this here because I already double responded to the other post. I might be stupid and I’m not seeing an option to toggle views but one thing that I can see about PieFed that wouldn’t work so nicely on a mobile web browser (at least in my case) is no compact view.

I’ve edited the title of my post here to include PieFed. It would be nice if some of these Lemmy app devs at least knew about the WiP Lemmy forks (if that’s even the right word).

Something I’ve seen pointed out about Lemmy and I’m starting to notice a little bit occasionally, is that people love ‘answering’ questions by not really answering and grandstanding a little bit. Someone asks “is there a gen z community?” and the responses they get are things like “who cares about these generation labels?” and no answers to the question.

Here you ask why there’s a large amount of downvotes on a particular instance, and not what people’s personal philosophy regarding downvotes is, and yet the top answer is someone that came here especially to tell you that they don’t care and no one cares.

And these guys are gonna complain about people going to places like Bluesky instead of joining the fediverse. AskReddit was basically the gateway to Reddit for new users.

To try and guess at an answer, even though I’m new here and haven’t even seen downvotes for the last few days. I think that people are trying to keep a certain political atmosphere and not let trolls / right wingers / people who are “just asking questions” take over. So votes go hard in that direction. And also I think there’s probably a lot more of the types around here that’ll have a ‘discussion’ while downvoting every response they get from you, more than on Reddit. Just going by the sneering that comes with how some harmless questions are answered.

Yeah but what about the price of eggs?

I want something between ‘feature phones’ and smartphones. A little bit like what Nokia had to offer with Symbian and Maemo but more modern. If you want a rectangle of glass that requires wireless proprietary everything and replacing every time the battery starts packing up, more power to you, I’m a fan of choice and options.

But I want to be able to buy a music phone with great speakers and toys like FM transmitters thrown in. Or a gaming phone with a d-pad, a, b, x, y and shoulder buttons. But like, with Firefox instead of Opera Mini. And social media apps and shit.

No need to apologize, I’ve been getting worse as of late.

Not gonna judge because I’ve probably been somewhere similar before. I am not exactly who I was yesterday either. I hope that you make it through the other side of whatever is hurting you and start to feel pain free again.

I hope I’m reading this wrong and I truly apologize if I am but I’m getting pretty strong ‘asshole’ vibes here, much stronger than I would from anyone using the word “normie”, personally.

But either way, it’s actually good to know when words I previously felt were overall harmless can cause this kind of response. I may not be from the USA, or have come from a background where it’s such a charged word, but I’m on a platform that’s likely mostly American (based on the news and politics that come through ‘All’), so I will refrain from using it unless I find it absolutely necessary.

Which should be fairly easy to do, considering that I barely ever use it anyway and just thought that this would be an amusing conversation.

Yeah honestly it’s not that serious for me. Personally I’ve never even visited the front page of 4chan. It’s a word that’s been around since long before social media too, as far as I know. One other place I’ve seen it used is autism communities when someone is describing their feelings about fitting in, or not.

I feel like 4chan is a US-centric thing. And a niche one at that. So it’s a very niche US-centric thing to assume about random strangers on the world wide web. For a word that a lot of people probably use differently.

What an alpha.

Sorry for going on here but just want to say, reading through all of the features for Piefed I already like what I’m seeing very much. Before I’ve even tried an account. The approach and philosophy towards moderation in particular makes me confident that I wouldn’t be instance hopping much there based on those sorts of disagreements.

Edit: also something nice is the ability to use the same import/export from Lemmy.

Nice, thank you very much! I’ll definitely be checking it out. As long as I can access these forums or something similar with decent activity and users, I’ll be happy.

Yeah I chose the most populated instance there to create an account and check things out. But the app kind of stopped my exploration dead. It’s a little barebones right now for my tastes right now, especially as far as customisation goes. And I’d be spending more time there than in front of my laptop.

Right now I think the only features that I’m really missing here on Lemmy itself are posting to your own profile and multicommunities.

And it would be great if instances like Blåhaj could enforce their own rules regarding things like downvotes properly, so that they could be disabled there for EVERYONE but enabled in places that still allow downvotes (this should go for individual communities too). The current implementation seems a little like an afterthought on the Lemmy devs’ part.

Edit: the biggest problem that I can see so far with excluding Blåhaj users from even seeing downvotes is that it gives an incorrect perception of things. If a bigot gets 2 upvotes and 20 downvotes, I’ll only see the 2 upvotes.

Next step: political adverts that quiz you on what you’ve just heard and repeat each segment if you get the answer wrong.

Just kidding though (or am I). This is truly some dystopian shit. My first reaction was what the actual fuck. And I bet you that their numbers aren’t really going to hurt that much because of this. Mark my words.

Doesn’t have the same vibes though. To me ‘normie’ has always been a little bit of an insult on top of just describing the ‘average person’. “Average person” is for when you’re describing statistics. “Normie” is for when you’re describing people that clutch their pearls and their bible when a goth walks past.

Yeah, I use “normie” occasionally and it kinda makes me feel like le edgy teen. But the problem is that I’m not sure if there’s another word that quite replaces it either. Sometimes it’s the only word that works in a particular context.

Apologies for the second reply. Just wanted to say that I checked out mbin and it’s probably more up my alley personally.

But, I still have a barely used Facebook account because a lot of people in my country are still on it. And I’m going to see if the rumours are true and try to spread the news about Friendica there, hopefully without my post getting removed or account being banned.

And if / when people from there give Friendica a shot, then I’ll give it a proper shot too with them. It’ll just be used for different things than what I use Lemmy for.

Basically I would be spending much more time in Lemmy communities, and I thought Friendica could be something extra on top to supplement it.

So I would like to be able to browse instances and communities and choose what I want to see and participate in. Either by subscribing or curating a feed or two. I don’t see an obvious way to do this from Friendica yet. It seems like here I need to scroll through a pre existing feed and curate it from there.

But please bear in mind, I haven’t explored extensively yet or read the link you shared earlier, although I have saved that post so that I can get back to it later in my day.

And another small thing for me (that can be easily fixed by styles and apps) is no apparent dark mode.