And I learn something every day. ;-)

Aim on Day 1 of yunohost. Running on a VPS Today but planning on moving it to a local server when I get my OpenWrt routing sorted out .

So this is 100% a really common situation. I don’t know any of my friends that aren’t hovering at about 96% of their gmail capacity and don’t want to pay. In fact that’s me today. Hence I’ve been looking around at self hosted alternatives and had previously looked at extracting my emails from Google and loading them in from local storage into Thunderbird - However I was playing around with Yunohost today and randomly uncovered this page - https://yunohost.org/es/email_migration I’m not sure how relevant it is but points to potentially some approaches. I can’t vouch for them but I’d love to hear from anyone who has used imapsync or larch

I’m on day one of Yunohost after months of trying to work out how to approach hosting things like Nextcloud and struggling through bare metal installations, trying to slowly get my head around Docker. Its like suddenly seeing the light … I mean I really didn’t think I would almost have an email server running today. (Its this a dangerous thing?)

I have a friend that uses the Go Cardless for importing data into FireFlyIII for several months now (May at least six) https://docs.firefly-iii.org/tutorials/data-importer/gocardless/ - Happy to put you in touch if you want to talk to them. - I’d actually like to find a UK Credit Union that would support data import for Selfhosted people. I think there would a really good fit. I’m also on day one of using YunoHost to spin up self hosted applications (Today on a VPS tomorrow on my local RaspberryPi ) I might fire up an instance of Actual.

I’d love to know how many people use Actual / Firefly to demonstrate that there would be interest for a Credit Union to look at offering such a service.

Sorry that should be coopcloud.tech

I have been looking.at the same thing. Basically alternatives to Google Workplace or MSFT 365.

https://lemmy.ml/post/21772726. I think most people are using a hosting providers email and web hosting and then maybe running Nextcloud and other apps themselves though there are some providers who are doing integrated email and Nextcloud.

There are things like coopcloud.tech and yunohost.org that appear to be trying to provide.out of the box self hosting ‘recipies’ Im just starting to look at yunohost but just for me / the family. - Id personally love to meet people and work through using these together as I am not an expert. It would seem that these might be the ‘killer app’ for self hosted alternative cloud services but Im not sure and they might not be quite mature enough. I have know knowledge of the admin overhead.

Google and MSFTs free for non-profits mean that clubs/small charities end up using those two anyway.

coopcloud.tech

They have a handy comparison - https://docs.coopcloud.tech/intro/comparisons/ might look at Yunohost - If anyone has any experience I’d been keen to catch up. I’m a newbie though

Yeah there does seem to be some crossover. I get the feeling that coop.tech is thinking more standardised solutions for multiple people / organisations where dokploy is more bespoke . configs individuals/ individual orgs.

I think this is more where you run a kiosk and you can (using cli) deploy an instance of a selection of apps per domain. Its all Opensource.

elfhost seems to be a commercial service to sell you deployment of SaaS hosted aps. ( But it looks like to bundles deployment and hosting - Im not sure)

What I am trying to understand is whether coopcloud are trying to bring those apps together to work in standard integrated ways - Or just be able to spin them up.

e.g. Having out of the box ldap, email and Nextcloud instances that work nicely together would be appealing. Drop a domain in. Spin up an instance and you are off.

I’m not going to provide an answer here but more a point and perhaps complicate things a little more - With ActivityPub and other open Federated protocols - The Platform that you use and the client that you select can be different. I use a Mastodon account and Friendica account with FediLab as my mobile client. I guess you are looking for the feature set and then UI for both Desktop and Mobile.

I kind of like the document but I’m struggling with all the cookies given that its hosted on xda-developers.com. In the eat your own dogfood kind of way… Do you have your own host that you could serve this up from? Wordpress?

AliExpress some ZigBee light switches. They arent connected to anything but through Openhab you use them to swtch ZigBee light switches that replace your existing switches.

Really useful thanks. Definitely sounds like I will be thinking about the Cable Cat more carefully.

The specs for latest versions of POE go up to 60-100W which is way beyond what I expected. Is that just still running over normal Ethernet or should I be looking for specifically rated stuff?

I was debating running Ethernet and a separate pair of cables for 12DC - Thinking maybe I might need thicker cables for USB-C levels of power and / having separate USB faceplates but looking again I think everything could run on Ethernet and then just decide / change what i put on the end.

Yeah … Definitely will put conduits in .

So a bit more thinking on this.

Looking at https://community.fs.com/article/understanding-poe-standards-and-poe-wattage.html POE could probably do a lot more than a few watts and could t feels like I could use POE to provide power for most of my devices providing cabled connection and power in one.

On the input side of things one idea I had was if I was running 12v DC on a separate cable run to power that I could have a battery / solar panel providing an independent supply since our 230v AC is strung from poles and does trip in bad weather.

Using POE does complicate that slightly I would have to find injectors that I could take that input and then extractors for USB, RJ45 and 12VDC output.

On the positive side of thing it would mean I could really reduce the number of 230 VAC sockets I would be putting around the house with just kitchen and laundry needing them.

Im also considering doing lightning at 12V LED rather than 230V

Haha of course it s going to be conduit. But its what to put in it. Just 230v ac or add 12v dc or POE or both.

So in an area its almost completely vertically integrated? Wow.