Kraken is nice. You can get XMR directly if it’s available in your country, and you’ll have less withdrawal fees. Else, kraken charges about 0,20€ (equivalent in crypto) for withdrawal fees iirc

I would not call an OS where you can’t really start any “big” app a success. If you can’t do anything with it, what’s the point?

You can’t really degoogle a phone without sacrificing a lot of things. Most “degoogled” phones just use a compatibility layer that still gives google loads of infos

I would much rather have neither of Apple or google, but having to chose, I prefer Apple, at least they’re not on every website I visit

Btw you can “deapple” by jailbreaking but it becomes a huge pain, as degoogling is

Finding a good phone with good specs, a good OS that is elegant and doesn’t track you at an acceptable price with all the features just isn’t possible

But you still sadly have google services everywhere, popping up here and there, reminding you that they have control over apps

No, I don’t want to login with google or rate the app

Most matrix clients just collect loads of data, so meh

They’re supposed to be hashed so that shouldn’t matter

Unless that’s the joke or something

Great news!

Yes and no

Not that much against government but for everything else, it’s pretty good indeed

You nailed it, it’s all about the threat model

Bro went out of his way to be annoying

Let people buy the shit they want

Except they only support the main blockchain for BTC which is really pricey

They could add support for LTC, DOGE, Lightning for BTC, and XMR and they would get a lot more customers

And you’re also forgetting that XMR is a really good choice to support for a pro privacy / anonymity company. Having crypto support without XMR for that kind of products makes little sense

BTC is okay, but XMR is a lot better

We need XMR support. Right now we’re just swapping XMR for BTC to pay anonymously

Or maybe just privacy and anonymity, low fees, not being controlled by external entities? You know, the thing it was built for.

Yup it’s pretty good, although I would’ve liked it better if they provided a good way to export the data to another app

I’m just thinking about https://privacyguides.org/ but they don’t really review everything, just tries to give an objective opinion on tools and services that they recommend

It’s just that the decoy selection algorithm picks decoys in a specific way. Its patterns can be exploited, but don’t stress about it. Churning will make up for it, it’s not that big of a deal. Just avoid spending outputs exactly after 10 blocks as it’s waaaaay more common for real spends than decoys (we can see that the Monero blockchain has way more spends on <20 blocks old outputs than the decoy algorithm proposes), especially when churning. Wait at least a few hours to a few days between churns

I didn’t really understand anything x)

Either are fine, as long as you have churned enough. Typically, the more time between transactions, the better it is. Withdrawing once per month will probably be absolutely fine.

The recurring usage patterns of XMR are either spend outputs quickly, or wait a long time. Spending old outputs will stand out a lot, but spending newly created outputs (like 15 blocks old) will also stand out quite a bit.

More time also means more chance of your outputs being included in transactions of other people, so more decoys at the time of spend.

I’m not exactly sure of what you meant.

I’ll try to answer the best I can, can you reformulate pls?

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And yea sorry it’s pretty much always me that goes on the statistical things and traceability because that really interests me, but as you can see most people will tell you that it’s not really needed, and realistically, for 99% of people, no efforts will be made to monitor their transactions. It’s still nice to know that and churn if you’re extra paranoid like me, or you have a threat model that justifies you go this route.

XMR is a lot less traceable that regular crypto, and no one will follow a random person’s transactions for no reason. But on the other hand, churned XMR is a lot less traceable than XMR used directly. It’s all about how far you need to go and you’re willing to go.

Do note that churning might harm the amount of decoys overall, as you’re creating 2 outputs, 1 of which is a 0XMR output that you’ll never use, so you’ll never generate a transaction with it, and as such, won’t blend it with 15 other transactions. It’s not significant, but if everyone churns, that might lower the average amount of transactions your output appears in. We’re still very far from that happening though. And no, statistically, generating a 0XMR output will not help other people find the real output with value (or know that you churned) because it’ll only on average reduce by 1 the amount of transactions your output will appear in. The current average should be close to 16, so that’s not reliable enough to track you.

And again I spoke too much and talked about another subject that you didn’t ask for x)

Depends on your threat model. If you’re not being monitored, then repeatedly churning might be too overkill

Damn I never understood it but now it makes sense thanks to you

Yea it’s ugly 😭

Bro used <> instead of !=

You’ll have to explain me how 15 decoys are enough to make you untraceable, there is still roughly a 1 in 16 chance that a transaction your output is the real spend in a transaction where it is included.

Imagine you are A, and B and C are two different third parties

If B -> A -> C, then all good

But if B -> A -> B, then there is a 1 in 16 chance (in the best scenario for you) that in B’s eyes, you were the real spend. Add to that the fact that most people don’t churn and B doesn’t have many customers, and it becomes a lot more likely that you were the real spend (I’d bet my money on it).

CEX or not, you’re still traceable