How many homeless people in the USA do you think can work but refuse to? Hint: a lot of them.

it is a job not an investment

where did I say that

Something can be both an investment and a job. If you found a startup, for instance. I just don’t get the meaningless arguments about how maintaining a property isn’t a job. If it requires you to work, then it’s a job.

Why are we gatekeeping the word job? all a job is “a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid” that seems to fit the definition of a homeowner renting out their property.

so there wasn’t an argument, just being pedantic

It is absolutely a job if you personally handle upkeep. Managing something is still a job. Although if you outsource every aspect of it I would consider it more an investment.

You can retire off a million dollars easily. Just not in the most notoriously expensive places in the USA. What exactly is your argument?

My point is that you said the argument has been disproven when I believe it has yet to be fully understood.

there are self made millionaires, they’re just considered lower middle class these days

this was the original statement being discussed

I believe we are talking about retirement, not supporting a family.

and how is that relevant? can homelessness be a problem and the economy be good at the same time?

there is little incentive for left wing rags to report on these topics

My point is that a lot of homeless people aren’t to be trusted to take care of the space they live in. There would have to be some screening to make sure that these people are capable of not destroying the public good they are being offered for free. I don’t think it’s really debatable that there are some truly awful homeless people, violent, mean, entitled, and not fit to live in a proper society. It’s something people need to face the facts on. So we need to find out how to help the good homeless people before we let the bad ones ruin it for the rest of them.

Then… don’t live in the most expensive places to live in the USA? All those places are NOTORIOUSLY expensive.

Then don’t get a job that works into the night. Jobs that you work past 6 are the minority of jobs.

I disagree that giving drug addicts a free and unlimited supply of drugs is the best way to fight drug addiction. Treatment (with forced holds) I’m a proponent of.

I didn’t make any claims about housing first policy, read the comment you are replying to. I know you barely looked at the articles because they are not about the same single hotel.

maybe not san fransisco but in most parts of the us you can retire off $1m can’t believe this is controversial

You can get a curfew exception if you are working.

80’s crime world movies are fascist propaganda by the way.

We’ve really turned the word “fascist propaganda” to mean anything that goes against your worldview. There are definitely crazed homeless people who do not care one bit about committing needless violence. I’ve experienced it first hand. Back when I lived in NYC there were some of the absolutely most deranged people I’ve ever seen in my life, one guy stabbed a indian knick knack stall owner with a piece of glass for legitimately no reason. The guy almost died. It is what it is, but I think burying your head in the sand is not really a viable way forward.