I’m fucking done with Chrome. Fuck this.

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    I love how they position it as a privacy feature, and then fail to explain how it does anything to increase privacy.

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        The topics become a super valuable fingerprinting metric, as well as continuing a form of cross site tracking now that 3rd party cookies are taken more seriously

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    What’s sad is that I’ve always been a huge Google supporter but they keep on moving in a direction that I’m no longer comfortable with.

    I’m also a certified Google proctor, which allows me to officially tutor and troubleshoot problems with anything Google.

    I just don’t see myself ever using that skillet in the future due to the current assault on its users’ privacy from Google.

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      I know, right??

      I got practically everyone I know into using the whole Google ecosystem. Now I deeply regret it. Their “do no evil” motto was ditched and it’s all about profits now.

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    How about a setting like “I don’t want to be tracked and I don’t want to see any ads” that is enabled by default?

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    There is a lot of misinformation being shared in this thread.

    A good excerpt from Steve Gibson covering Topics on SecurityNow #935

    What I do know, though, is that user profiling via tracking represents the height of privacy intrusion. As far as I know, an immutable record of every website I have ever visited is squirreled away in multiple massive hidden and inaccessible-to-me profiling databases. And I have zero control over that. That’s the world we’re in today. But if Topics succeeds, and Google would appear to be in the position to singlehandedly deliver its success, it is a far less intrusive profiling technology. And in addition to being a much weaker information gatherer, Google has chosen to provide its users complete control over the Topics their browser presents to the world, including turning it off altogether for full anonymity. I’ll explain that further in a minute.

    So if only on that basis, Topics at least represents a huge step in the right direction. Yes, by default some interest profiling remains. But the means of obtaining those significantly weakened profiles is no longer tracking. And users have complete visibility into their online profile and are able to curate, edit, and even delete any of it or all of it as they choose. So it’s a compromise. But there are many websites begging for our support. My feeling is, if voluntarily letting them know something about who we are allows them to generate, as they claim, significantly more revenue from our visit, is that too high a price to pay? Again, it’s an individual decision. But now, in a world with Topics, at least, it’s one we’re able to make.

    Okay. So here’s how Topics works. The essence of Topics are individual topic tokens - zero, one, or many - which are assigned to individual websites. For example, my GRC.com site might be associated with Computers and Electronics/Network Security, and Computers and Electronics/Programming, and Networking/Internet Security. So when someone visited GRC.com, their own web browser would record their interest in the topics associated with GRC.com, those topics, those three. But their visit to GRC.com itself would never be recorded other than in their regular local browser history as is always done. The only thing retained by the browser to indicate their interest in those topics would be those three numbered parameters.

    For example, in Google’s current 349-topic list, which they refer to as a “taxonomy,” there’s “Arts and Entertainment” as a general topic if nothing more specific is available. But then there’s “Arts and Entertainment,” and then under that “Acting and Theater,” and “Comics,” “Concerts and Music Festivals,” “Dance,” “Entertainment Industry,” “Humor.” And under “Humor” is the subtopic “Live Comedy.” And it goes on like that with “Arts and Entertainment” having a total of 56 token entries before we switch to “Autos and Vehicles,” which has 29 subcategories, which brings us to “Beauty and Fitness” and so on. You get the idea.

    So here’s how Google’s specification explains this. They said: “The topics are selected from an advertising taxonomy. The initial taxonomy proposed for experimentation will include somewhere between a few hundred and a few thousand topics.” They said: “Our initial design includes around 350.” And I counted them, it’s 349. “As a point of reference, the IAB Audience Taxonomy contains around 1,500 individual topics and will attempt to exclude sensitive topics.” And they said: “We’re planning to engage with external partners to help define this. The eventual goal is for the taxonomy to be sourced from an external party that incorporates feedback and ideas from across the industry.”

    Google explains: “The topics will be inferred by the browser. The browser will leverage a classifier model to map site hostnames to topics. The classifier weights will be public, perhaps built by an external partner, and will improve over time. It may make sense for sites to provide their own topics via meta tags, headers, or JavaScript, but that remains an open discussion for later.”

    SecurityNow #935 transcript

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    Time to switch and start donating to Mozilla.

    I was still using Chrome for some things at work, just because that’s our assumed default, but I know enough to switch over there too now. Maybe I’ll update the documentation to help other people switch too…

    Insert “I’m doing my part” meme

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        The CEO needs to be fired and unstead it should be used for Development.

        They deoend on Google to keep it up.

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            Sure but browsers don’t make that much money.

            People lambaste Mozilla for their non browser initiatives but I wonder how they expect mozilla to exist if the google money goes away.

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    I haven’t used chrome in about 5 or 6 years now. Firefox all the way. I can’t support a monopoly on the web.

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    When was the last time Google made something objectively useful and not some ad bs?

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    Ah yes, “hey instead of us tracking you, can you just save us the computation effort and just tell us what you’re into? We’ll still keep tracking you though.” And this is somehow a privacy FEATURE? Even though they clearly say they’ll be sharing thisvinfo with websites you visit? Boggles the mind

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    Imagine if Firefox implemented this and we don’t have any other browser to use without ads.

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      You can say ‘Fuck this’ and switch to Firefox or LibreWolf (fork of Firefox with privacy improvements and preinstalled uBlock Origin, it also removes all the crap from Firefox like Pocket or Sponsored sites). Mull on Android is another great Fork of Firefox with improved privacy.