Is there an option in mod tools to remove your community from the karma sorting algorithm and instead make it subscriber only? Because I’d wager you’re complaining about outsiders, considering the number of subscribers.
Your memes about how there’s no difference between Obama and Trump shows up on the front page of every instance. Maybe don’t publicly advertise your memes if you don’t want a public response.
Criticism and exclusion have conflicting goals. Criticism is about inciting critical thinking and reflection, hopefully change. It allows for more engagement across viewpoints and builds cohesion. Exclusion reinforces bubbles and pushes communities to senescence.
Not really. Any open space is just going to be dominated by the majority viewpoint simply through numbers and if you don’t have walled gardens it becomes impossible to discuss contrary perspectives. Most of the “critiques” that liberals bring to the table are just repeating the same talking points over and over, accusing us of being Russian bots or secret Trump supporters or whatever, and repeating the same pointless arguments over and over again.
Even if two people try to have an intelligent conversation in good faith, the fact that people are waiting to jump down someone’s throat or take things out of context and go like, “Aha! This proves you’re secretly an accelerationist!” colors the conversation and keeps everyone on guard. It’s the same concept of if you let conservatives/reactionaries into a space, their perspective adds nothing to the conversation and makes it harder to discuss anything intelligently.
This is the whole concept of the fediverse, tbh. To allow for “walled gardens” that can still have opportunities to interact with each other. My ideas are far more challenged in spaces where I share certain basic assumptions than they would be by anything liberals or reactionaries have to say.
By going sub only you also prevent a lot of in-group from finding it while leaving the gates open to raiders/trolls…
For people not engaging with the ideas you have moderation which may take a community lead approach towards rules and actions. Slap on wrist, temp bans, and longer term bans work for individual bad faith actors. Honestly this works well on dbzero even if its not “perfect”.
A better argument for more aggressive exclusionary action I can see is if the community’s moderation efforts are overwhelmed leading to moderator burnout.
The fediverse is focused on creating social media platforms on an open framework without the pitfalls of corporate run closed platforms. The ability to create walled gardens is a feature of that greater endeavour.
I think one of the greatest challenges the left has is to combat the learned helplessness of liberal society which leads to such things as bootlicking propaganda regurgitation. Because state and corporate media have immense resource investment and capture this is always going to be a battle fought by talking with individuals who haven’t been pushed to think so critically about their inherited philosophical position. Fighting that change is just part of learning.
Is there an option in mod tools to remove your community from the karma sorting algorithm and instead make it subscriber only? Because I’d wager you’re complaining about outsiders, considering the number of subscribers.
Not complaining, just pointing out. This isnt something that only happens here, it’s every leftist space
Your memes about how there’s no difference between Obama and Trump shows up on the front page of every instance. Maybe don’t publicly advertise your memes if you don’t want a public response.
I don’t care about the response.
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Happy cake day
Significantly less so on .ml, but otherwise yeah
Criticism and exclusion have conflicting goals. Criticism is about inciting critical thinking and reflection, hopefully change. It allows for more engagement across viewpoints and builds cohesion. Exclusion reinforces bubbles and pushes communities to senescence.
Not really. Any open space is just going to be dominated by the majority viewpoint simply through numbers and if you don’t have walled gardens it becomes impossible to discuss contrary perspectives. Most of the “critiques” that liberals bring to the table are just repeating the same talking points over and over, accusing us of being Russian bots or secret Trump supporters or whatever, and repeating the same pointless arguments over and over again.
Even if two people try to have an intelligent conversation in good faith, the fact that people are waiting to jump down someone’s throat or take things out of context and go like, “Aha! This proves you’re secretly an accelerationist!” colors the conversation and keeps everyone on guard. It’s the same concept of if you let conservatives/reactionaries into a space, their perspective adds nothing to the conversation and makes it harder to discuss anything intelligently.
This is the whole concept of the fediverse, tbh. To allow for “walled gardens” that can still have opportunities to interact with each other. My ideas are far more challenged in spaces where I share certain basic assumptions than they would be by anything liberals or reactionaries have to say.
By going sub only you also prevent a lot of in-group from finding it while leaving the gates open to raiders/trolls…
For people not engaging with the ideas you have moderation which may take a community lead approach towards rules and actions. Slap on wrist, temp bans, and longer term bans work for individual bad faith actors. Honestly this works well on dbzero even if its not “perfect”.
A better argument for more aggressive exclusionary action I can see is if the community’s moderation efforts are overwhelmed leading to moderator burnout.
The fediverse is focused on creating social media platforms on an open framework without the pitfalls of corporate run closed platforms. The ability to create walled gardens is a feature of that greater endeavour.
I think one of the greatest challenges the left has is to combat the learned helplessness of liberal society which leads to such things as bootlicking propaganda regurgitation. Because state and corporate media have immense resource investment and capture this is always going to be a battle fought by talking with individuals who haven’t been pushed to think so critically about their inherited philosophical position. Fighting that change is just part of learning.