I get where they’re coming from, China certainly gets a lot right. But some people here are denying that any of the bad parts exist and just unquestioningly glaze the government of a nation state.
Like why do they simp for a country so hard that the only thing separating them from a nationalist in that country is the fact that they never actually participated in its culture and have even less of a clue about the reality of living there?
No, I got enough reasonable-looking but ultimately dubious canned responses. It’s weird that drone footage and other videos are enough to convince some people of bad things happening in countries they don’t like while the same level of evidence doesn’t have the same sway for bad things happening in countries they like.
I get that socialism can’t be perfect in a world so shackled by capitalism. I don’t get why some people convince themselves that China is a perfect example of socialism.
I’m really not in the mood to watch Very Convinced individuals try to e.g. ridicule violence protest suppression by calling it “tinyman square”.
But some people here are denying that any of the bad parts exist and just unquestioningly glaze the government of a nation state.
Show me a single one. This is what you guys always do: pretend that the communist is a religious zealot and the Bad Guy States are his religion, because the idea that support for a socialist country could actually be the outcome of a sober calculation instead of exposure to dark communist magic or something is, i guess, unfathomable? Too threatening to your own ideas of ideological purity and superiority to seriously consider? Anyway yeah, show me one
Like why do they simp for a country so hard that the only thing separating them from a nationalist in that country is the fact that they never actually participated in its culture and have even less of a clue about the reality of living there?
See what I mean? This is fanfiction, you’re writing fiction in which communists are the mindless simp wojack and you’re the chad who supports nothing. None of it has any connection to reality unless you can show me this “simping”. Super cool that you use incel lingo BTW.
And you wanna talk connection to reality? We have people in China, including one with a degree in Marxism, here. We’re constantly talking about the actual conditions in the country with people who actually live there. The idea that we’re all just sat around telling each other stories about China with a certainty and fervor that belies a complete lack of factual data is, franky, some wild projection by western leftists.
On the one hand we talk about the actual conditions of the country with people who live there, then on the other hand we get to turn around and deal with the most cliche, easily disproven US State Department dogshit about any given socialist country, day in day out, from people like you who think you’re rescuing us from our own understanding.
Damn, bad shit happens sometimes in human societies?
Well, time to shut it all down. It’s been nice knowing you everyone, but now that I realize there’s no point in striving for better I guess I’ll see you in the woods. Some stuff happened and now we can’t have water purification or modern medicine.
This is just the inverse of “all lives matter”
I get where they’re coming from, China certainly gets a lot right. But some people here are denying that any of the bad parts exist and just unquestioningly glaze the government of a nation state.
Like why do they simp for a country so hard that the only thing separating them from a nationalist in that country is the fact that they never actually participated in its culture and have even less of a clue about the reality of living there?
Could I get a list of the bad parts you see denied frequently on here?
No, I got enough reasonable-looking but ultimately dubious canned responses. It’s weird that drone footage and other videos are enough to convince some people of bad things happening in countries they don’t like while the same level of evidence doesn’t have the same sway for bad things happening in countries they like.
I get that socialism can’t be perfect in a world so shackled by capitalism. I don’t get why some people convince themselves that China is a perfect example of socialism.
I’m really not in the mood to watch Very Convinced individuals try to e.g. ridicule violence protest suppression by calling it “tinyman square”.
So you don’t actually know anything about that issue except the US State Department’s take?
Or you just really approve of CIA funded color revolutions violently assaulting communists?
No
I bet you also think Iran killed 3 morbillion protestors that one week
Iran is shit. The USA is shit. Why do you think I’d defend either?
Show me a single one. This is what you guys always do: pretend that the communist is a religious zealot and the Bad Guy States are his religion, because the idea that support for a socialist country could actually be the outcome of a sober calculation instead of exposure to dark communist magic or something is, i guess, unfathomable? Too threatening to your own ideas of ideological purity and superiority to seriously consider? Anyway yeah, show me one
See what I mean? This is fanfiction, you’re writing fiction in which communists are the mindless simp wojack and you’re the chad who supports nothing. None of it has any connection to reality unless you can show me this “simping”. Super cool that you use incel lingo BTW.
And you wanna talk connection to reality? We have people in China, including one with a degree in Marxism, here. We’re constantly talking about the actual conditions in the country with people who actually live there. The idea that we’re all just sat around telling each other stories about China with a certainty and fervor that belies a complete lack of factual data is, franky, some wild projection by western leftists.
On the one hand we talk about the actual conditions of the country with people who live there, then on the other hand we get to turn around and deal with the most cliche, easily disproven US State Department dogshit about any given socialist country, day in day out, from people like you who think you’re rescuing us from our own understanding.
I’m not even saying that China is bad for a nation state. I’m just saying that bad shit is happening, state-sanctioned, in every nation state.
I’ve shown people drone footage, they don’t believe it. No evidence is enough for people who already made up their mind.
Damn, bad shit happens sometimes in human societies?
Well, time to shut it all down. It’s been nice knowing you everyone, but now that I realize there’s no point in striving for better I guess I’ll see you in the woods. Some stuff happened and now we can’t have water purification or modern medicine.
No, I didn’t say either of these things, I think I’ve been pretty clear about that.
I think you have not been very clear about anything