Apple called Android a "massive tracking device" in an internal presentation
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An internal Apple presentation now made public by the Department of Justice shows just what the company thought of privacy on Android.

      • flipht@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        100%. Most business is just advanced sophistry at this point. Marketing and advertising serves a useful purpose for new products, when the market isn’t aware that it exists.

        But by quantity and cost, most advertising is just social manipulation and is effectively an extra drain on the economy.

    • mindlight@lemm.eeEnglish
      03·
      1 year ago

      Congratulations to you and the other 0.000000001% of Android users then.

      • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I would like to think that the percentage of users who have grapheneOS is maybe 5% of the pixel population. I’m just pulling a number out of my ass right now but basically a lot of people who want the very best privacy and security go for graphene which is limited to only Pixels even though there are more cool phones like the fp5.

        • Avero@feddit.deEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Lineage is by far the most popular custom ROM and it has about 3.2 million active devices. Which is about nothing in comparison to 1.22 billion smartphones sold alone in 2022. Barely anyone uses third party ROMs.

  • interolivary@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Well, it’s not like Apple doesn’t also collect pretty hair-raising information on you. Go digging through some of the sqlite databases on your machine and you’ll find eg. a social graph that even supports labels for things like political affiliations (I think this db was the one used by their ominously named “intelligence platform” service). Another db (which I think was for the knowledged daemon) has an incredibly detailed log of everything you do on your computer and phone, including eg. web URLs and millisecond granularity events on when you interact with your devices. Whether that social graph or all that other stuff ever leaves your devices is unknown (although eg. the knowledged stuff definitely does since I can see events for my phone on my laptop), but I wouldn’t count on it not being sent to Apple – regardless of what they claim.

    And yeah, sure, this is all to make “customer experience” better, but do you seriously believe that’s all they will be used for?

    Edit: and just as a side note, I’m not basing these claims on stuff I read online, but on actually having looked at the contents of those databases myself

      • interolivary@beehaw.orgEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Sure! ~/Library/IntelligencePlatform (associated with intelligenceplatformd) has a bunch with graph.db being the social graph, but with others like behaviors.db and eventLog.db also likely being relevant, and I think ontology.db was the one where they kept more information on the tags available for the social graph. ~/Library/Application\ Support/Knowledge/knowledgeC.db (associated with Spotlight’s knowledgeconstructiond, which I think used to be called knowledged in earlier versions) has the other stuff I mentioned.

        There’s also some system-level things in eg. /var/db/knowledgegraphd/ but I haven’t bothered looking into those yet because it’d require disabling SIP.

        • ElPussyKangaroo@lemdro.idEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Ok, I’m just gonna come out and say it - I messed up.

          I clearly have no idea what you’re saying, and I don’t even know why I expected anything even remotely simple to understand.

          I apologise for wasting your time, but thank you so much for this comment, however pointless it may seem now.

          • interolivary@beehaw.orgEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Oh you didn’t waste my time at all, no worries. It’s not like copy-pasting those paths from my terminal was all that much work, and it’d definitely have been better if I’d included that info right from the start. Unfortunately I couldn’t give any blog posts etc as a source, because as I said it was all based on my own poking around in those databases, but at least I could say where the databases were so others could do some poking around of their own if they wanted to

    • brax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Yup, the logic people use to call Apple phones secure would put Fisher Price toy phones at the S-Tier of security.