Need this nationwide. I hate having fees added on to the price of what I’m ordering.

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    This might be a weird question but when people tip for a good service, what exactly is good service?

    If I go to a restaurant I expect them to take my order, bring me the food and when I’m done bring me the check. That’s it. I want nothing else from them. Should I tip them for not spitting in my food or not stumbling and throwing it all over my clothes?

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      6 months ago

      If I go to a restaurant I expect them to take my order, bring me the food and when I’m done bring me the check. That’s it.

      I’ve been to a Michelin Star restaurant where a pair of waiters were constantly hovering over your table to clean it and refill drinks and offer provide conversation.

      The chef comes by and makes a presentation of every dish (the bananas foster was practically a magic act, the way they assembled the meal and then light it on fire). The staff practically wingman for you, if you’ve got a date. Everyone is beautiful and charming.

      But that was something like $300/person just for the table, with 20% gratuity as a fixed fee on the final bill.

      There are lots of restaurants that don’t charge through the nose for the meal but offer comparable service. Charming friendly waiters who weedle your favorite food and give excellent recommendations. Staff that sing or make clever jokes or entertain small children or share a cocktail with you at the table. I know a few high end restaurants in Houston that will try to pouch waiters from one another because they’re friends with particularly wealthy regulars.

      You see less of that now (at least in the states) because individual waiters are expected to cover more tables, turnover is more important than relationship building, and the quality of food has taken a real nosedive as we replace professional chefs with meals made in microwaves.

      Now a tip is much more like a Coperto - a cover charge for seating - than gratuity for exceptional service.

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          6 months ago

          A good waiter who earns his tip will have the skill to recognize that you want to be left alone, and will serve you quickly and efficiently and unobtrusively. Good waitstaff will quickly figure out what each patron needs in order to have an excellent dining experience, and then will deliver that.

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        6 months ago

        Oh wow that sounds awful. I already don’t like when they come check on me mid-meal about wether the food is good or do I need anything.

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            Eating out in Korea is great.

            You need more water? They either have a fridge of jugs, or a water dispenser.

            Side dishes are help-yourself; you just go up and get them. Unlimited and free.

            The person who makes the food is sometimes the person who brings it to you.

            No tipping, no tax added to the price you see on the menu, and no stupid prices like $19.99 instead of $20.00.

            And even after all that, the prices are still cheaper than the bare menu prices for me back in Canada.

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      6 months ago

      My tip heavily depends on how full my water glass is kept and how long my dishes sit in front of me before they’re cleared.

      I don’t need chit chat or being flirted with, I just need my meal in a prompt and courteous manner, that’s worthy of 15-20% IMO.

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        6 months ago

        So literally you say it’s okay to pay extra for a server to do their job, because the restaurant isn’t paying them enough?

        Hells no. I’m all for prohibition on tipping, because it WILL be abused. Just pay servers a normal salary like everyone else

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          6 months ago

          I literally say that I am fine to pay extra when I believe the service is worth it. I live in a country where servers earn above minimum wage typically.

          You do you, some people are cheap, some are ignorant some are both.

      • spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        Why is the price you put on a full water glass dependent on whether you got an expensive steak vs a cheaper pasta dish though? This is why percentages are so dumb.

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      6 months ago

      Should I tip them for not spitting in my food or not stumbling and throwing it all over my clothes?

      In the US, yes. Tipping here is insane.