Need this nationwide. I hate having fees added on to the price of what I’m ordering.

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    Only fees that are entirely optional — like leaving a tip for staff — can be left out of the posted price.

    How do you say you’ve never worked as a server without saying you’ve never worked as a server?

    Edit: I think there’s a misunderstanding. I’m commenting on describing tips as “entirely optional.” If you can’t afford to tip, don’t eat at a restaurant. Servers are paid below minimum wage because they receive tips.

    Second edit: My bad. NY has a tip allowance, and that’s where I waited. I didn’t know it varied so greatly from state to state. California does, in fact, pay their servers $16 per hour minimum.

    https://www.paycor.com/resource-center/articles/minimum-wage-tipped-employees-by-state/

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      Servers are paid below minimum wage because they receive tips.

      Not true everywhere. For instance Washington requires servers be paid the full minimum wage of $16.28/hr before tips.

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        California, ie the state this fucking article is about, also mandates the full minimum wage for servers.

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      Work a Sunday brunch shift and watch the raft of churchies leave nothing but condescending notes, if anything.

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        Holy shit. They give god 10% of their income. This server is “asking” for 18% of the price of their bill. They’re not even remotely the same thing.

        I’m generally against tipping, but still do it. I’m way against illogical comparisons like this though.

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          It’s called tithing. It’s described as giving 10% of your income or possessions to god in the Old Testament.

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            I’m aware of tithing. I’m saying that 10% of your income in a tithe is not even remotely the same thing as 18% tip for a single purchase. It’s more comparable to a sales tax than a tithe. One is percentage of a total income, the other is a percentage of a purchase.

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      Don’t take the downvotes too seriously. Your original point was succinct and poignant. On average, lemmy bombs on anyone going against the popular stance. A whole lot of paper activism goes on here.

      Your point is valid. Not tipping because “fuck the man” only serves to hurt the servers. From a moral consumer standpoint, there’s no winning. You either cut out restaurants entirely, which still fucks the wait staff, or you tip high and hope enough of it ends up in the their pockets.

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        I’m downvoting because he’s wrong about servers getting paid below minimum wage in California. That’s true in his shithole state but not ours.

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      Restaurants should be forced to pay their workers a living wage, which is how it works in developed countries. And paying below minimum wage should be illegal.

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        it’s such a fucking joke that they’re allowed to pay like $2/hr because they’ll make it up in tips. just because customers are nice doesn’t mean the employer should get off the hook like that. even the joke federal minimum wage is fuck all, that’s like 1-2 sides at a decent restaurant