Welcome to Tuta! 😍
    • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, tuta isn’t amazing, but definitely better than tutanota just for length and verbally giving someone else the address.

  • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    2 years ago

    I really wanna support these folks but I’m also curious about the recent headlines with Cameron Ortis (Canada’s own selfish version of Snowden who deserves a damn Peace Prize for reals) referencing these.

    Also, I think people need to learn there is nothing “private” about email beyond not scanning which is like paying for a not-service (like don’t fuck me over). Hell, its hard enough to work up the courage and stamina to vanishing-messages-set someone adversarial who desperately needs you to make and ebforce that decision upon them as a baseline for engaging with them at all.

    I will pay $1/month for email company to not be an asshole but that’s the extent of my patience with the notion and I have zero illusions about what is likely still happening on some level.

    Edit: Snowden deserves reward, not Ortis.

    Edit: whats the timeline/continuity in terms of Ortis’ mention and Tutanota rebranding to Tuta

    • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      I wasn’t familiar with the headlines you’re referring to so took a look, here is one story from the CBC. And here is Tuta’s post responding to the allegation.

      Besides knowing the name I was not super familiar with Tuta, but it appears their source code is publicly available for review for any backdoor (and that Cameron Ortis doesn’t seem trustworthy or even especially knowledgeable).

      • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        That’s my instinct, but its good free publicity I think. The worst thing is not being talked about, maybe there’s some truth to that

      • Ginko@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        6·
        2 years ago

        Proton lost me when I found out you can’t receive notifications from their app on a de-googled phone. Their app requires Google services for notifications. Since then I’ve moved to Tuta and am very happy with the service and notifications work. I mean how hard is it to set up a new email check every half hour in the app. What’s the point of private email when you have to run it on a spyware (Google) infested phone.

      • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        Can you share more about why you think Proton’s approach is better than Tuta?

        From a casual read through they both appear to use end to end encryption when users are on the same service. (Proton emailing Proton or Tuta emailing Tuta) and both offer the option to password encrypt an email so you can message someone on other services as long as you can share that password with them IRL somehow.

  • ΛdΛm_𝒷@infosec.pubEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    What I don’t understand about Tuta, is that they allow you to create multiple accounts and use them in their app simultaneously, but they say it’s against their terms and they may ban you !!

    I don’t know if this is an old policy, but I’m sure it was like that at one point

  • sederx@programming.devEnglish
    26·
    2 years ago

    Yeah fuck these people you can’t even open a free account anymore what a joke

    • Kayn@dormi.zoneEnglish
      151·
      2 years ago

      Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean nobody does.

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
        52·
        2 years ago

        Something in the post should at least attempt to explain what Tuta is rather than just announcing a new name for something hardly anyone has ever heard of.

    • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
      7·
      2 years ago

      To tuta users, I guess.

      I wouldn’t use it, they lost my trust when they suddenly started deleting free accounts a bit inactive, requiring a paid account to restore them.

      • ΛdΛm_𝒷@infosec.pubEnglish
        12·
        2 years ago

        They delete accounts that are inactive for 4 months to 6 months ( happened to me ) it’s in their terms, nothing shady about this

        • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
          3·
          2 years ago

          The point is not whether it’s shady, but to trust (at one’s discretion) that they will meet minimum expectations. I would expect a change with such absolutely dramatic consequences to be notified in advance and give users plenty of leeway; the opposite seems like a red flag to me, especially when they had no urgency about it.

            • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
              1·
              2 years ago

              It’s good that they are now more serious about informing their users, but the first time they did it they were very discreet, not even a mention on their blog. A very unpleasant surprise.

              A 6 month window is too short, and applies indiscriminately even to accounts that only use a few bytes. They could just delete the content and deactivate them… well, actually that’s what they do, but they demand money to reactivate them ._.