I’m a dude, but I frequently browse BadWomansAnatomy. I was having a (calm, respectful) debate with a few users regarding how a lot of people that have “transitioned” still bear hallmarks of their former gender (I mentioned one of my long time friends who has gone from MTF and still looks the same. Kaitlin and Elliot are also good examples). The ban was because I dared to use the “dead names” of Elliot Page and Kaitlin Jenner! Oh the horror! 😱
I went to post in /r/rant how I just thought it was ridiculous and it was autoremoved because I mentioned the world “mod” in the title and I mentioned a specific community 🤣
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Yeah no you brought that shit on yourself.
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First of all, trans women actually show lower T levels than cis women because they’re literally taking medicine that blocks its production, and yes, cis women do produce testosterone too, just not from testicles. So whatever nonse you think you’re able to clock trans women with, you’re probably accusing cis women and being a real douche about it too.
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Second, dead naming is genuinely just a dick thing to do even outside the presence of the person in question, because you’re fundamentally saying that you care so little for someone that you’re not even going to respect their preferred form of being addressed, which like, why would ya go out of your way to be that asshole. You’re being that guy who insists on calling Tim Timothy all the time, why would you be doing that except to get under Tim’s skin? Stop being that guy and just call him Tim like a normal person who doesn’t need to have basic manners and zero effort good human behavior explained to them.
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Third, so you’re admitting outright you broke community rules and are still thinking the post in question being removed is unfair? I’m not normally a fan of powermodding but bro that’s not an excuse to be mad that you faced consequences for breaking the rules in broad daylight.
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I mean, did you intend to dead name them? If not, did you correct yourself?
Because if you did it intentionally, you’re an asshole. If you did it by mistake because you brain farted, but didn’t correct it, you’re an asshole. You did use the right names here, so I ain’t mad. But let me frame things for you.
If you went through the effort of changing what people call you from your first name to your middle name, anyone refusing to switch would be an asshole. Doing it if you were struggling with something major related to that name would make them a giant asshole.
IDGAF who it is, if they aren’t picking a name just to fuck with people, you fucking call them what they want to be called, period. Anything else is just douchebaggery.
Now, when you add in that dead naming trans people can be an act of aggressive verbal attack to trans people as a whole, the person doing so isn’t just an asshole, they’re a bigoted asshole.
Is that who you want to be? The person that fucks with people just trying their best to live a free and happy life? If that is who you want to be, I have to warn you that reddit is not the only place online you’ll end up barred from. And there are people that will treat you poorly because of being an asshole. Actions have consequences, and words can be a form of action. While I support your freedom to say what you want within the framework of general legality regarding incitement, that doesn’t mean anyone has to accept that kind of thing and let you spew nastiness.
So, take the ban like an adult. Accept that you fucked up enough for the community, and use that in the future to really think about the subject and decide who you want to be.
Maybe just don’t use the dead names?
Yeah, Lemmy is way more politically left than Reddit, this post isn’t going to last very long here.
Like, the average Lemmy user is a Linux Obsessed Trans Communist that works in IT. Any user that is outside of that is most likely a minority on Lemmy. If you thought Lemmy was going to be less politically charged, I am sorry to say you won’t be finding less politics here than on Reddit.
Lemmy has zero chill even if you are a leftist, it’s like zero fun to post here, I tend to just lurk
I think whats frustrating is that when the Great Migration was happening from Reddit, people telling Redditors to go to Lemmy were advertising it like a place that was more politically neutral than Reddit. So when people come over expecting that kind of community only to realize they were lied to, that makes it very frustrating.
I know thats what happened to me when I first learned about Lemmy, and it was not fun. I don’t post political stuff, but I thought I wasn’t going to keep seeing it everywhere. My feed is like a ghost town now though, because I just instantly ban communities or users I see posting that stuff. I don’t care, I don’t want to see it. Yall can talk about it without me.
Same thing happened on my old account, no content after blocked everything that annoys me. Don’t want to hear about how much you hate cars in every single thread, it’s boring
Other problem is no matter what you post it gets downvoted, and that’s why when I get access to reddit again I’ll bail on lemmy because there’s no chance of it growing. This is like leftist 4chan and it’s tiresome to post here; never going to get new people this way
Honestly you hit the nail on the head with the “leftist 4chan” bit. I’m not someone who chases up votes or anything, but I do like when I see my comments resonate with other people and get the “agreement vote.” That doesn’t happen here.
Especially in the gaming communities of Lemmy the users are so hateful towards literally any upcoming “AAA+” game that gets posted about. Like you can’t even say you think something looks fun without a bunch of people just coming to downvote you or give you shit for daring to announce that you’re excited for something new.
It is so true. As an old school progressive I tend to point out the aspects of modern leftism which clash with traditional progressive views and I usually get downvoted into oblivion. For example I’m not tolerant of Islamic societies that force their women to cover their faces. Well I was quickly informed that I was islamophobic but I’m not going to be bullied into changing my view under the guise of respecting other culture’s beliefs. Just because a belief is cultural does not make it righteous.
The other day I told a user to stop needlessly censoring language in response to them stating that someone’s post title was misogynistic and demanding them to change it. The offending title had the word bitch, used the same way Jesse Pinkman used it in breaking bad. It wasn’t directed towards women in any way and the use of the word was synonymous with the word punk. Apparently that gets your post removed and your account banned on hexbear’s politics channel. How can we overcome our differences if we’re not even willing to talk about them?
This community is on .world, we’ll see
I mean more that it was going to get downvoted and OP might delete it themselves, I wasn’t really talking about moderation in this particular community, which does a pretty good job from what I have seen.
Yeah downvoting doesn’t help change someone’s opinion it just makes them angry lol, that’s why lemmy will die
I personally hide downvotes for this reason
Yeah it helps but it’s not set by default which is my main criticism, newcomers do not stick around here
You can do that?
From version 0.19.4, yes.
Your instance isn’t there yet, hopefully in the coming weeks.
Like, the average Lemmy user is a Linux Obsessed Trans Communist that works in IT.
Wasn’t reddit similar but insane and toxic people
the average Lemmy user is a Linux Obsessed Trans Communist that works in IT
Come on. Stop exaggerating. First of all surely that has to at least be limited to certain communities. Secondly, how can the “average” person be such an extreme? Like, what are the outliers in that sample data?!
I’ve seen some pretty hard right trolls on here since joining up. Not many, but a few.
But are they also trans and Linux-obsessed working in IT?
Remember what lemmy users say of the people on reddit that they tried to get away from by coming to the fediverse? It’s you, you are that people.
It’s not really any better here, you are already being mass downvoted for this valid criticism
Censorship here is worse than reddit I think even, I ragequit deleted my lemmy account a whille ago and I’m only back because I can’t use reddit. Lol. I will probably just evade the ban after my ISP gives me a new ip
Valid criticism? Using deadnames and putting “transitioned” sure ok.
Also hard to say they are being censored when you know, downvotes aren’t censorship. You might be anle to say what you want but that has consequences. Kinda sounds a little like op might have earned their ‘downvotes to oblivion’ or whatever
Oh by censorship I mean the amount of mild comments I had removed on my old account here
Yeah because you were being a dick.
Censorship because you are offended is the fall of society
No it just means you were a dick so someone kicked you off their private property for it. That’s their right, isn’t it?
