• VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    From a different article;

    She said the group appeared to be of Middle Eastern descent, possibly from Syria, and estimated they were aged 18-25.

    https://metro.co.uk/2024/07/02/lesbian-couple-beaten-gang-homophobic-attack-birthday-night-21142932/

    It’s not comfortable but stories like this are exactly why the right is gaining popularity and if the left continues to pretend not to see them and act like this then of course people aren’t going to take us seriously.

    We need articles to give us facts and talking heads to explain what’s being done and what the big plan is to make sure that letting in large quantities of immigrants in doesn’t have negative consequences for regular people.

    If we act like we’ve never heard of such things while they are listing distressing examples then the average undecided is going to be swayed their way. As an idealist I wish the world had no boarders, we don’t live in that world and i cant force the.world into it by ignoring reality. all the European countries going right have the same big reason for the shift, we can’t go on pretending that if we ignore people’s concerns and real problems that everyone else will ignore them too.

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      4 months ago

      There’s something that happened that I can’t quite put my finger on. Sure I’m going to show my age here but when I went to elementary school in the 80s/90s our entire school was essentially made up of immigrants. Irish, British, Polish, Ukrainians, Filipinos, Iranians, Syrians, Indians, etc, etc, etc and we all got along just fine. we were all friends. We all went to each others birthday parties, all our parents hung out with each other. If a new familiy immigrated in and moved to our neighborhood we’d have a big BBQ and invite everyone over.

      So what happened? and it swings both ways. Both Canadians being hostile to new immigrants and immigrants coming in and being hostile or disrespectful to the country they decided to move to and it’s people.

      I just don’t get it and maybe someone smarter than I can explain it.

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        4 months ago

        I wondered the same, race was never a thing at our grade achool or highschool either in 80s or 90s. Like it never crossed our minds to think the brown/black kid, they were just kids, and some were the super popular kids. One of my white friends was super into rap and breakdancing and his entire friend circle was black. They called each other niggah as a greating ( but ER ending back then) Once I got into a career though I met a lot of the generation above me that were racist assholes. i’m not sure why our gen didn’t win out over the older gen.

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      4 months ago

      The “Right” harps on the fact that they are Syrians to somehow paint all Syrians, all Muslims, all immigrants with the same brush, stoking fears of population replacement and other such bullshit.

      The “Left” says that we have already laws for mob violence, apply them. Bad people who are Syrians exist just like bad people who are Italians exist and just like bad people who are Americans exist and bad people who are Canadians exist. There is zero reason to weaponize the bad behaviour of those bad people to enact discriminatory policies against an entire community. Just apply the existing law. Persecute these assholes for the homophobic hate crime they did. Why is that not enough? In fact, the only people who would say this would not be enough are people with a hate agenda of their own, i.e., the far right…