cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19944734
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (KCTV) - A sight previously thought to be science fiction is very real at a southeast Kansas City shopping center. Instead of a police officer, a security robot has been patrolling sidewalks and shoppers are taking notice.
Since Marshall the robot has been on the job, shoppers say the experiences have completely changed when they come to these stores. The robot can spend 23 hours a day monitoring the parking lot from all angles which gives people a new sense of protection and ease they don’t always have when out.
Marshall took over security at Brywood Centre in April. Before that, Karen White noticed a lot of trouble outside the shopping center.
“Sometimes it’d be concerning for your car like someone could take it or something,” White said.
Knowing now that Marshall is always watching, the risk of crime does not worry her or others as much.
“It made it very better, like you can’t be in the parking lot without seeing the robot,” White continued. “So, I think it scared them off.”
EXTERMINATE!!!
CITIZEN! DO NOT BE ALARMED! YOU WILL FEEL A SMALL TICKLING SENSATION AND THEN DEATH!
Wasn’t this the exact plot of Revolution of the Daleks?
I knew I was not the only one
Imagine it had guns and tasers its gonna end horribly
did the engineers install red leds in the eyes? if yes we might have a problem
This’ll last until somebody with a mask spray paints the cameras.
even just a blindfold or a bedsheet over the cameras could do the job
We have protectrons in malls now?!
If I give the robot a wegie and put a piece of dirty underwear in its head, will it shoot me?
It’s in America so yes.
My point is that this thing is a dumb robot tha doesn’t have a weapon. So its actually a step up from racist mall cops shooting people because they’re brown.
…If I give a cat a wegie and put a piece of dirty underwear on its head, will it shoot me?
It could only be a joke. It is? Oh shit…
“Pick up your gum wrapper. You have 20 seconds to comply…”
I read that in dalek voice
I read that in ED-209
Pick up that can
One time I threw it at him and it managed to bounce off of his chest into the can. I’ve never been able to replicate it. He still chased me around the room through lol.
I like to throw it at them, then sprint away to see if I can make it outside before I get smacked. It’s about 50/50.
put it. in the trash can.
gun wrapper
Ha, good catch. Damn you autocorrect!
Does it resemble a Dalek on purpose, I wonder?
It’s like if Aperture Science designed a Dalek
Perfection
I believe you mean:
This is a triumph
I think so, lol. Dalek security guards are scary indeed.
Imagine shoplifting and they show up at the exit like:
HALT!
I’m pretty sure privacy goes out the window when you commit a crime. If it isn’t robots it would be humans arresting you.
Don’t support criminals in any form as they are the ones who are actively creating a need to stop crime.
The bootlicking version of “why do you need privacy if you have nothing to hide?”
He has a license plate reader, he has facial recognition, he can read IP addresses from your cell phone or watch,”
Uhhhh… How is it reading the ip addresses of people’s phones?
Someone made a mistake here. It’s not getting your IP address. An IP address is assigned by the gateway when you’re connected to an access point. An IP address is not an identity. They are always changing and can be shared. This has already been tested and upheld in court.
It’s actually collecting your MAC address. Which is exchanged when your phone or tablet scan nearby WiFi points or Bluetooth devices. However, this can already be defeated. By default iOS and Android both have the option to randomise the MAC address in intervals. Making it extremely difficult to prove anything. This feature exists because the devices real MAC address never changes. It is unique. Alternatively, users can disable WiFi and Bluetooth scanning entirely. However, your device no longer participates in the Find My Devices program by Apple and Google, location does take longer to acquire in some scenarios, and accuracy may take longer to triangulate.
Counter-argument, this is all correct, but when the application is against shopping mall criminals it will work well enough. Not talking masterminds here
I imagine it MITM’s the wifi? Obviously wouldn’t work with cellular but thats the only this claim can ve even remotely true.
That being said they could do some shit with malicious bluetooth/NFC behaviour
Well its probably not a MITM if its just an official access point
That’s fair. MITM wouldn’t be the right term.
Obviously wouldn’t work with cellular
Ever hear of a stingray?
Why would it need to MITM the WiFi? The store runs and operates the wifi
good point.
I’ve heard for a while that stores use Bluetooth to track you as you go through a store. Not for anything nefarious but just to understand how people move around the store typically. So it probably does that too.
It probably just has a WiFi repeater in it
I bet it was something like the hardware id instead but she misspoke
It must be for wifi that they operate.
Scarier than I thought 😭
One of these hit my car. It was out patrolling randomly in a parking lot and I pulled up to get a better look at it. I stopped like 6 ft in front of it but it just kept on coming and ran into my fucking car.
“You are illegally parked on private property. You have twenty seconds to move your vehicle.” -ED-209
Sorry, I laughed. Did it do damage? What was the outcome?
Left some paint on the car but that was it.
That’s the downside of having the invisible boatmobile, they just keep coming
BIG BROTHER advanced to level 3.
On the one hand, yes, on the other hand, it’s unlikely to brutalize or kill people for minor offenses, so maybe a win for a public space?
I don’t know about you but I don’t like to be watched by big brother all the time.
Just put a blind fold on it?
Right there with you, but there’s no legal expectation of privacy in public, so it’s futile to complain about on that basis. Especially when ring doorbell cams are everywhere already. So the silver lining is a security robot won’t do this.
maybe no legal expectation, however I ask you when were you or any other common person asked about legal expectations. don’t come with “everyone at election”, because everyone knows its not true, in any sense
Dude, we’re on the same side in this, I just know
whatsome battles have already been lost.i understand, and sorry if I offended you. my problem was you were referring to a legal expectation as if that should be everyone’s personal expectation
Not offended, just seemed like you thought I was excusing it. I’m not - just acknowledging it. 🙂
Unlikely, but there is still a chance. It could always call its pig cousins to brutalize or kill you on its behalf.
Fair point!
This is relatively low on my privacy concerns, being that it seems to be patrolling and surveiling privately owned property.
Almost all of your life happens on someone else’s private property
Although I imagine once you’re in the club of billionaire elites, you’ll be really happy to have taken this live and let live approach towards this matter
it literally says it reads shit off your phone/other smart devices, you’re being tracked
privately owned property
quick, name a space that isn’t
National Parks?
I think they are more concerned about mass surveillance that is run by nation states or large companies and data brokers. At the end of the day Target can’t track you if you don’t go to Target. However, Target could buy your data in order to make an ad to get you to go to Target
It’s good that you’re concerned about the data your phone may be revealing to other nearby devices. It’s generally a good idea to have bluetooth/wifi/nfc turned off if you’re not actively using them. Even without the robot, you have no idea what data companies might be collecting when you’re physically on their property.
Why WiFi? They can’t get much data from WiFi. If you use a VPN, all they’ll see is a bunch of encrypted data going to a VPN server.
I think the lady said they know the IP address of every phone but that doesnt make much sense. anyway, the point was that theyre using the signals from your phone to uniquely identify you. you can simply turn those radios in your phone off when youre not using them.
Interesting, but this question is 10 years old. are you sure android didn’t fix this? They released Mac address randomization since then
Radio signals don’t recognize property boundaries.
nor does visible light